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  • pitfighter
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3141

    1918 - M3 and a Thompson

    Not really C+R related, although it is -
    As the M1A1 if it were registered in time would now be a C+R - theoretically.

    Just a post to read if you're bored.

    Anyways -

    A mannequin from a museum about the Airborne, in this case the drop in Normandy ahead of the D-Day landings.



    This plastic fellow from the 82nd All American, has a Model 1918 Trench knife attached to his Thompson M1A1 and another fighting knife on his forearm, it should have been an M3 in a leather M6 sheath, someone at the museum has put a far less desirable M4 bayonet in that rare M6 sheath, but anyway.


    This is my 1918 - it's an honest vet bringback, bent guard, original brass-black still remaining.
    *Word of warning about these, by the letter of the law they are a "no go" in CA, meaning not in your collection, on your license, and definitely not to carry, etc., just verboten. They slipped it onto the books in 2012. Lynn Thompson at Cold Steel supposedly argued it, saying it was neither a knuckle duster or a dirk, but a combination of both, I'm not sure what the outcome was.


    The 1918 trench knife saw extremely limited use in WW1, instead being fielded in higher numbers when stocks were raided for WW2 - usually seen with members of Airborne units, combat units, though other pictures exist.
    It's a double-edged fighter and nuts heavy and bulky, it has no use beyond being a fighter, so the average trooper would likely trade it on after the novelty wore off.

    Above is a brilliant and rare picture of some WW2 Special ops, likely US/CAN FSSF, posing prior to the V42 being issued - this original photo was amongst my V42 FSSF owner's original items.
    Last edited by pitfighter; 02-18-2021, 11:47 PM.
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    CA/AZ
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    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    Originally posted by pitfighter
    *Word of warning about these, by the letter of the law they are a "no go" in CA, meaning not in your collection, on your license, and definitely not to carry, etc., just verboten. They slipped it onto the books in 2012. Lynn Thompson at Cold Steel supposedly argued it, saying it was neither a knuckle duster or a dirk, but a combination of both, I'm not sure what the outcome was.
    Yep, it meet's CA's definition of "dirk or dagger" [PC 16470] and "metal knuckles" [PC 16920].



    Penal Code 16470Penal Code 16920
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      pitfighter
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 3141

      Yes - they are covered by two separate CA penal codes:
      The other code is the wobbler:
      Under Penal Code 21810 PC: it is illegal in California to make, import, sell, give, or possess metal knuckles, or brass knuckles.

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      Last edited by pitfighter; 02-19-2021, 1:11 AM.
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