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Alright, in anticipation of posting several C&R Rifles in the near future, I thought I would post this here for discussion.
I have a M91/30 Tula rifle that has a PU scope attached. This rifle has some glaring contradictions including the following:
1. 1937 Tula receiver and barrel, but does not have the SP, SN marking
2. 1937 Tula, but mounted with a PU scope (Too early for a PU scope)
3. Izhevsk Stock, with non matching Floor plate
On the surface, almost anyone would just assume this rifle had a PU scope attached after it got here in the US, and that this nothing more than a 37 dated common rifle. However, there are three very important features that always made me hesitant to dismiss this rifle outright. Additionally, the bolt and barrel shank serial numbers match. Every part is Tula with the exception of a Izzy stock and butt-plate.
1. Although there isn't a way for me to prove this with a receipt or picture, I know this rifle has been in the US since at least the early 1960's (Family member).
2. There is no import marks on this rifle
3. This rifle never went thru the Soviet refurbishment process; there is no heavy re-blueing, no lacquer on the stock, no refurbishment marks, an original sling, and an interesting Knurl-less, blue-less cleaning rod.
I have had many people discuss this rifle over the years, and a small consensus is that this rifle came from Yugoslavia. After the war, Yugoslavia was on friendly terms with the USSR until they weren't. During that time, the Yugos acquired Mosins from them. After the Mosin snipers were worn out, they were salvaged for parts, and normal Mosins that they got from the USSR were used to create new Mosin snipers. They also had their own refurb process that didn't follow the soviet plan of heavy salt bath blueing or heavy lacquer stock finish. That explains the missing Soviet refurb process as well as how a non CH marked Tula with an early date had a PU attached.
The rifle came with a sling as well as a cleaning kit. I never bothered to post pics of the cleaning kit during most discussions about the rifle, but after deciding to sell the rifle, I started to take pics of the cleaning tools. I was informed that I had a Yugo oiler as opposed to the Soviet style oiler.
However, I have doubts about Yugoslavia, as although the stock and blueing match their refurb process, there is no:
1. brazed cleaning rod end
2. Yugo stock marking
3. In the white rear sight top
I post this here so that others may comment and criticize the rifle. My intentions are to soon post it for sale. SO what does everyone think?
I have a M91/30 Tula rifle that has a PU scope attached. This rifle has some glaring contradictions including the following:
1. 1937 Tula receiver and barrel, but does not have the SP, SN marking
2. 1937 Tula, but mounted with a PU scope (Too early for a PU scope)
3. Izhevsk Stock, with non matching Floor plate
On the surface, almost anyone would just assume this rifle had a PU scope attached after it got here in the US, and that this nothing more than a 37 dated common rifle. However, there are three very important features that always made me hesitant to dismiss this rifle outright. Additionally, the bolt and barrel shank serial numbers match. Every part is Tula with the exception of a Izzy stock and butt-plate.
1. Although there isn't a way for me to prove this with a receipt or picture, I know this rifle has been in the US since at least the early 1960's (Family member).
2. There is no import marks on this rifle
3. This rifle never went thru the Soviet refurbishment process; there is no heavy re-blueing, no lacquer on the stock, no refurbishment marks, an original sling, and an interesting Knurl-less, blue-less cleaning rod.
I have had many people discuss this rifle over the years, and a small consensus is that this rifle came from Yugoslavia. After the war, Yugoslavia was on friendly terms with the USSR until they weren't. During that time, the Yugos acquired Mosins from them. After the Mosin snipers were worn out, they were salvaged for parts, and normal Mosins that they got from the USSR were used to create new Mosin snipers. They also had their own refurb process that didn't follow the soviet plan of heavy salt bath blueing or heavy lacquer stock finish. That explains the missing Soviet refurb process as well as how a non CH marked Tula with an early date had a PU attached.
The rifle came with a sling as well as a cleaning kit. I never bothered to post pics of the cleaning kit during most discussions about the rifle, but after deciding to sell the rifle, I started to take pics of the cleaning tools. I was informed that I had a Yugo oiler as opposed to the Soviet style oiler.
However, I have doubts about Yugoslavia, as although the stock and blueing match their refurb process, there is no:
1. brazed cleaning rod end
2. Yugo stock marking
3. In the white rear sight top
I post this here so that others may comment and criticize the rifle. My intentions are to soon post it for sale. SO what does everyone think?
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