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  • Forgotten_man
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 27

    C&R -03 question

    Can a C&R license holder, with a CEO, sell a C&R firearm to another C&R holder out of state without going through a California FFL? And does California sales tax need to be added?
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    rromeo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 6981

    You can sell almost any firearm to anybody in most states without going through a California FFL, regardless of C&R licenses.
    Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

    - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
    (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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    • #3
      capt14k
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 1301

      If shipping out of state, to a free state like AZ, and firearm is C&R eligible, and receiver has FFL03, you don't need a FFL03 and can ship directly to their home. In other states like CA, such as NJ, all non antique firearms (and some antique) must ship to FFL01, in MD all handguns must ship to FFL01.

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      • #4
        Hesco
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 6

        Originally posted by capt14k
        If shipping out of state, to a free state like AZ, and firearm is C&R eligible, and receiver has FFL03, you don't need a FFL03 and can ship directly to their home. In other states like CA, such as NJ, all non antique firearms (and some antique) must ship to FFL01, in MD all handguns must ship to FFL01.

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        • #5
          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          No matter where it must be shipped to, he's asking if it has to be shipped from an FFL in California. I think in any of the states that allow shipment directly to an 03 FFL, that answer is no.
          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

          - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
          (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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          • #6
            capt14k
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 1301

            Originally posted by rromeo
            No matter where it must be shipped to, he's asking if it has to be shipped from an FFL in California. I think in any of the states that allow shipment directly to an 03 FFL, that answer is no.
            That is correct.

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            • #7
              capt14k
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 1301

              I thought they changed that recently in Maryland with handguns and "assault rifles".

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              • #8
                peterinsj
                Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 191

                You have to meet the laws where the buyer is. You also must meet the federal rules for shipping, handguns must ship through common carrier not USPS.

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                • #9
                  sfe187
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 1770

                  Are we sure all handguns must be shipped to?

                  What if OP has a table in a gun show out of state, which he drove there and was selling an CR handgun.

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                  • #10
                    rromeo
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 6981

                    No, it doesn't need to be shipped, a face to face transaction with an out of state C&R holder is legal
                    Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                    - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                    (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                    • #11
                      Milsurp1
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 3091

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                      • #12
                        SkyHawk
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 23526

                        Originally posted by Forgotten_man
                        Can a C&R license holder, with a CEO, sell a C&R firearm to another C&R holder out of state without going through a California FFL? And does California sales tax need to be added?
                        This is not a 03/COE question.

                        No matter what type of gun you are selling, and no matter the license status of the out of state buyer, and no matter if the CA seller has a license or not, there is no legal requirement to use a CA FFL to touch it or to ship it. Some receiving FFLs may want to see it come from another FFL though.

                        And no you do not collect CA sales tax or any other states sales tax.

                        Your only concern is about the use of a FFL to receive it, and that will depend on the CR status of the gun, the license status of the buyer and the laws of the state they live in. Those laws vary from state to state.
                        Last edited by SkyHawk; 09-24-2020, 8:22 AM.
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