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  • Fergie
    Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 253

    I need some weird LiveScan help!

    I could use your knowledge today if you can help, I would appreciate it. I want to get my FFL3 in CA. First step as I understand it is LiveScan. I go the live scan with my pre-printed form and the lady there asked me what the code is to transmit it. She thinks it is: AB165.

    Does anyone happen to know what code they need? I have no idea what she is talking about, but I have to figure it our or risk wasting the application and fee.

    Thanks in advance!
  • #2
    Croweman08
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 590

    You dont need a live scar for your 03FFL....you need the livescan for your Certificate of Eligibility......
    Originally posted by Josey Wales
    Winchester Model 94 - FTW!
    Originally posted by SJgunguy24
    "Well I guess that's when you have to put on your big boy pants, let your balls drop and find out what's it like to be a man and take some responsibility."

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    • #3
      Dirty_gaijin
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 166

      Originally posted by Fergie
      I could use your knowledge today if you can help, I would appreciate it. I want to get my FFL3 in CA. First step as I understand it is LiveScan. I go the live scan with my pre-printed form and the lady there asked me what the code is to transmit it. She thinks it is: AB165.



      Does anyone happen to know what code they need? I have no idea what she is talking about, but I have to figure it our or risk wasting the application and fee.



      Thanks in advance!
      Like the previous comment. You don't need a livescan for your 03ffl. When you apply for your COE, that code will be prefilled for the livescan location.

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      • #4
        STEWMAN
        Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 347

        This is what I used it has the ori code.
        Attached Files

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        • #5
          Fergie
          Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 253

          Sorry this is all new to me. My end goal is to get a FFL03 relics collector license. I understood the process as: 1) LiveScan, 2) COE, 3) FFL03 app.

          So I took this form to a LiveScan location. https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...s/bcia8016.pdf

          The ORI number is not pre-filled and is giving the livescan lady heartache. She thinks it is AB165, but asked me to confirm before she sends.

          Am I doing this wrong? I am leaning towards just submitting it as AB165.

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          • #6
            Fergie
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 253

            Originally posted by STEWMAN
            This is what I used it has the ori code.
            Thanks for the share. That is a whole different code. I will ask the nice lady what she thinks of it.

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            • #7
              Dirty_gaijin
              Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 166

              Originally posted by Fergie
              Sorry this is all new to me. My end goal is to get a FFL03 relics collector license. I understood the process as: 1) LiveScan, 2) COE, 3) FFL03 app.

              So I took this form to a LiveScan location. https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...s/bcia8016.pdf

              The ORI number is not pre-filled and is giving the livescan lady heartache. She thinks it is AB165, but asked me to confirm before she sends.

              Am I doing this wrong? I am leaning towards just submitting it as AB165.
              Yes you're doing it differently and taking unneeded steps.

              If you only want an 03ffl, You don't NEED a coe to have an 03ffl. 03ffl isn't very effective in CA without the coe.

              If you want an 03ffl, you don't need to take a livescan. You can go out of the state and buy C&R firearms.

              If you want to order ammo to your door step or take C&R items home with you in CA from an 01ffl, you'll need a coe which requires a livescan with a COE code in it. You can get that form from CFARS when making the application.

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              • #8
                Fergie
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 253

                Originally posted by Dirty_gaijin
                Yes you're doing it differently and taking unneeded steps.

                If you only want an 03ffl, You don't NEED a coe to have an 03ffl. 03ffl isn't very effective in CA without the coe.

                If you want an 03ffl, you don't need to take a livescan. You can go out of the state and buy C&R firearms.

                If you want to order ammo to your door step or take C&R items home with you in CA from an 01ffl, you'll need a coe which requires a livescan with a COE code in it. You can get that form from CFARS when making the application.

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                Thanks! I thought the FFL03 would allow me to receive ammo to my doorstep. Is that not true?

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                • #9
                  Dirty_gaijin
                  Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 166

                  Originally posted by Fergie
                  Thanks! I thought the FFL03 would allow me to receive ammo to my doorstep. Is that not true?
                  That would require 03ffl AND certificate of eligibility (COE) 2 separate documents together.

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                  • #10
                    Fergie
                    Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 253

                    I went to the CFARs website and tried to create an account and it wont even create one. Just returns an error message. Is CA making it jacked up on purpose?

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                    • #11
                      Fergie
                      Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 253

                      Originally posted by Dirty_gaijin
                      That would require 03ffl AND certificate of eligibility (COE) 2 separate documents together.

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                      Yes, I thought I needed the LiveScan first, then apply for the COE, then the FFL03?

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                      • #12
                        Dirty_gaijin
                        Member
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 166

                        Originally posted by Fergie
                        Yes, I thought I needed the LiveScan first, then apply for the COE, then the FFL03?
                        03FFL is completely separate from the coe process. I got my 03ffl first then got my coe.

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                        • #13
                          zinfull
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2733

                          It has been a few years since my first FFL03 but back them I needed fingerprint cards for the federal.

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                          • #14
                            Dirty_gaijin
                            Member
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 166

                            Originally posted by zinfull
                            It has been a few years since my first FFL03 but back them I needed fingerprint cards for the federal.
                            Not required for the 03ffl. For other type ffls it's required.

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                            • #15
                              Fergie
                              Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 253

                              OK I got a CFARs account created. When I clicked on apply for COE it aked if I have submitted LiveScan yet. So hopefully it will not matter which I do first. So I told the livescan lady to send it.

                              Thanks for everyone help, I may keep posting this process as it unfolds.

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