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  • Rogerbutthead
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3841

    San Marco Walker replica stuck in half cock



    I got my used San Marco Walker today - in three major pieces - so I put it together - and I think I screwed up.

    The cylinder didn't seem to fit all the way back with the hammer down - like the way it was sent to me - so I pulled it to what I think is half cock.

    Now when the pistol is together - the hammer is stuck in half cock - pulling the trigger won't budge the trigger position and I can't seem to move the hammer.

    I don't want to force anything - yet. The cylinder rotates but the hammer and trigger are stuck fast as shown in the picture.

    What do I do to make it work right?

    I did try taking it apart to the three major pieces and then tried to move the hammer - but it seemed stuck to me.
  • #2
    Dr. Peter Venkman
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 4899

    I'd guess that the bolt is stuck. You can't disassemble it at all? You should be able to get the barrel off at the very least, even if you have to use a bit of force.
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    You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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    • #3
      warbird
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 2049

      there should be blueprints on the internet for this revolver. They are not that hard to take down and put back together even when replacing springs. The barrel has nothing to do with what you are describing unless the barrel has been screwed on so tight it interfers with the rotation of the cylinder. you could have a foreign object in the internal spring area or a broken spring. Find a diagram and break it down further.

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      • #4
        Rogerbutthead
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 3841

        It does come apart in the three main pieces. However, I am now thinking that the screws need a soaking as I can't seem to budge some of them.

        Will soak in some oil overnight.

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        • #5
          Springfield45
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2426

          I suggest you loosen the hammer screw and carefully try to get it to move. If that does not work try disassembling it completely. Go slow and don't force anything to move that dose not want to.

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          • #6
            Dr. Peter Venkman
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 4899

            Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
            It does come apart in the three main pieces. However, I am now thinking that the screws need a soaking as I can't seem to budge some of them.

            Will soak in some oil overnight.
            Reassemble it without the cylinder and see what it's doing when you half cock and cock the hammer.
            sigpic
            "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
            Originally posted by berto
            You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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            • #7
              Rogerbutthead
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 3841

              Hammer won't move with the cylinder removed.

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              • #8
                russ13
                Member
                • Aug 2015
                • 273

                Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                Hammer won't move with the cylinder removed.

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                • #9
                  kendog4570
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 5180

                  Remove the backstrap (start with the trigger guard/butt screw, then the two screws at the hammer slot), stocks, unload force on the hammer by removing the main spring screw. Then the trigger guard screws to have a look inside. In that order.
                  Now you can pull the hammer, trigger and bolt pivot screws without them being under spring tension.
                  Sounds like the hand is jammed in its mortise in the frame. Possibly a loose/broken hand spring? Hand stud worn or broken? Trigger nose broke off and jammed it? Hammer cam fallen out? Have seen all these things happen on single actions. No telling til you get it apart.
                  VTI has parts for those guns. If the hand, bolt, or trigger is jacked, the new parts will need to be fit by someone that knows what they are doing.

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                  • #10
                    Rogerbutthead
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3841

                    This will be the last used black powder pistol I will buy - the first and the last.

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                    • #11
                      warbird
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 2049

                      don't give up on it as it can be a nice piece when you clean it up. imagine trying to fix it back in old days out on horseback. And by the time you work your way through this one any others will not seem so frightening. You have gotten some good advice so use it and be careful when taking the tension of the springs. I got lazy this year and used Bruce over at Sleepy's gunsmithing in Citrus Heights and you should have seen a couple of garbage pieces I took over to him that went beyond my amateur abilities. You will do just fine and you will have a lot of pride in it once your finished because it did not beat you.

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                      • #12
                        darkwater
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 784

                        I just ran across World of Guns, a software app that you can buy on Steam that shows how various guns are assembled/disassembled and function. A few people have made Youtube videos of the Colt Walker.

                        Check this one out for disassembly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URSrYUFx5XA

                        And this one for how the internals function: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTlx6v7rMM
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                        • #13
                          Rogerbutthead
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3841

                          I need to get some penetrating oil as the screws don't seem to want to move.

                          What penetrating oil that does not discolor the blue/wood - would you recommend?
                          Last edited by Rogerbutthead; 05-27-2020, 6:14 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Dr. Peter Venkman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 4899

                            Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                            I need to get some penetrating oil as the screws don't seem to want to move.

                            What penetrating oil that does not discolor the blue/wood - would you recommend?
                            I'd recommend Kroil or Ballistol.
                            sigpic
                            "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
                            Originally posted by berto
                            You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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                            • #15
                              kendog4570
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 5180

                              Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                              I need to get some penetrating oil as the screws don't seem to want to move.

                              What penetrating oil that does not discolor the blue/wood - would you recommend?



                              Which screws are you having trouble with?

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