Question about muzzle loading

[Dooder]

I'm interested in muzzle loading and have a question in particular to loading a smooth bore. Forgive me if this sounds dumb, but I literally just starting looking into muzzle loading today.

So I'm wondering if it's possible to prefabricate a load that's wrapped in paper or something so I can just drop it in and pack it with the rod. Maybe to use a section of pipe with a paper cup in the end to hold the bp and then put the nitro card, shot and over card on top so it's portable. Then when I need to load it just put it over the bore and shove it all in with the rod. If you can imagine it basically being a speed loader.

Would this work with a rifled bore?

Is the packing of the individual layers crucial to the load?

Thanks for entertaining my thought.

[edgerly779]

I have a 3 tube speed loader with triple seven pellets and .50 cal sabot with 240 grain bullet. Just have to put .209 primer for ignition.

[Alan Block]

There is a traditional way to do this for a musket but it requires nitrate soaked paper. The only guns you need card and wadding is a shotgun.

[Dieppe42]

As Alan said, this has been done in various ways since before the Civil War. The tube loader Edgerly779 mentions is the most practical way. Plastic tube that contains powder charge and cap, so you can pre-measure powder. You would still need to place a patched ball over the muzzle and start it. No real way to start a patched ball with a ram-rod. Some of these loading tubes have a starter nub on them.

During the civil war the Springfield had a .58 Minnie with powder in paper tube. You would bite the top off, pour the powder, and ram the paper, with Minnie on top. (Still had to place primer.)

In Trapdoor rifles, you would shove the whole thing in the breech and the nitrated paper would ignite with the primer.

[Tom-ADC]

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[Dooder]

Awesome, thanks for the replies!

[rmnc3r]

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