SKS fixed mag mod?

[echo1]

Hi Fellas,

I'm building a Shernic bull pup from a SARCO barreled action. I've got a Tapco 10/20 mag that I would like to use for esthetic purposes.

Can I get a way with installing a stop bolt/screw at the stock mag release so that it's a fixed mag? Or is it necessary that the retaining apparatus be a blind rivet?

Thanks, PAX

[SkyHawk]

Hi Fellas,

I'm building a Shernic bull pup from a SARCO barreled action. I've got a Tapco 10/20 mag that I would like to use for esthetic purposes.

Can I get a way with installing a stop bolt/screw at the stock mag release so that it's a fixed mag? Or is it necessary that the retaining apparatus be a blind rivet?

Thanks, PAX

Normal answer is that it must require the action to be disassembled in order to remove the mag. But a removable mag SKS is a banned AW, so there may be other considerations even beyond the fixed mag mod.

[Quiet]

I'm building a Shernic bull pup from a SARCO barreled action. I've got a Tapco 10/20 mag that I would like to use for esthetic purposes.

Can I get a way with installing a stop bolt/screw at the stock mag release so that it's a fixed mag? Or is it necessary that the retaining apparatus be a blind rivet?

In order to be considered a "fixed magazine"... [PC 30515(b) and 11 CCR 5471(p)]

Option A. [11 CCR 5471(n)]
The ammunition feeding device needs to be locked in a manner that it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action.

Option B. [11 CCR 5471(w)]
The ammunition feeding device needs to be permanently attached (welded/epoxied/riveted) in the firearm's magazine well.

[echo1]

I can see that in this state, KALI, screw the esthetics and stay stock. Even at that, in general, a Bull Pup SKS action is likely to get attention of some sort at a public range.

Although, after putting it together with the stock mag, learning about "Option A", and thinking about the mechanics, a roll pin that prevents the mag release from rearward movement would meet "A".
You'd have to take the trigger assembly out, to remove the mag, same as in stock configuration.
Additionally, a pin wouldn't interfere with the release spring, which has something to do with the transfer bar base.
A pin would be easy and cause no irreversible cosmetic damage. PAX

[seanbo]

Do a little research but I'm pretty sure that not all SKS's are considered an assault weapon with a detachable magazine. If I remember correctly it's Russian and possibly Chinese that you're not supposed to have a detachable magazine.

[echo1]

Do a little research but I'm pretty sure that not all SKS's are considered an assault weapon with a detachable magazine. If I remember correctly it's Russian and possibly Chinese that you're not supposed to have a detachable magazine.

ANY SKS with a detachable mag is a felonious affair. PAX

[Quiet]

Do a little research but I'm pretty sure that not all SKS's are considered an assault weapon with a detachable magazine. If I remember correctly it's Russian and possibly Chinese that you're not supposed to have a detachable magazine.

ANY SKS with a detachable mag is a felonious affair. PAX

It's all Simonov patterned rifles marked "SKS".
This covers all Soviet, Chinese, Romanian, Albanian, East German, North Korean, and Vietnamese made SKS rifles.

That said...
The Zastava M59/66 and M59/66A1 are not marked as "SKS" rifles.
In addition, those rifles have a slightly different gas system from the Simonov pattern.
So, it is argued that even though they are SKS style rifles, they are not "SKS" rifles.

[seanbo]

Exactly

[echo1]

It's all Simonov patterned rifles marked "SKS".
This covers all Soviet, Chinese, Romanian, Albanian, East German, North Korean, and Vietnamese made SKS rifles.
That said...
The Zastava M59/66 and M59/66A1 are not marked as "SKS" rifles.
In addition, those rifles have a slightly different gas system from the Simonov pattern.
So, it is argued that even though they are SKS style rifles, they are not "SKS" rifles.

Exactly

So, do you two fellas sport detachable mags on your Yugos?
What about M59s, are they GTG with removable mags too?

In my pile of SKSs, I have scrubbed Chinese rifles that only have serial numbers on the receivers. I think one of them doesn't even say "Made in China" or have an import stamp. PAX

[seanbo]

Hey, California wrote the rules for this game. We just have to play by their rules, and the rules say some SKS's can have detachable magazines.

[Quiet]

So, do you two fellas sport detachable mags on your Yugos?
What about M59s, are they GTG with removable mags too?

In my pile of SKSs, I have scrubbed Chinese rifles that only have serial numbers on the receivers. I think one of them doesn't even say "Made in China" or have an import stamp. PAX

For me, no. Because, I don't trust CA DOJ to not pursue it as a "SKS".

However, there are some (with lawyers on retainer) that have gone down this route.

[echo1]

For me, no. Because, I don't trust CA DOJ to not pursue it as a "SKS".
However, there are some (with lawyers on retainer) that have gone down this route.

That would be me too. Not worth the potential expense for something totally avoidable. PAX