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  • MarCat
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 138

    Originally posted by MarCat
    I just completed the form. At least in Mac OS X Preview, the ATF portion of the form works with the auto-fill feature. The CLEO pages of the form did not work with auto-fill. I used text boxes as a work around.

    What a PITA. They make every step tedious for a reason.

    We will see how long it takes for the COE and FFL03 application to get stuck somewhere along the way.
    UPDATE: Just received my FFL 03 via snail mail. Mailed on 4/12/2021, Received on 4/15/2021, and mailed on 05/11/2021 and in the mailbox on 05/15/2021. 33 days start to finish.

    I went on CFARS and updated my COE with the FFL 03 information, so we will see how long it takes for the COE to complete.

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    • MarCat
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 138

      Originally posted by MarCat
      UPDATE: Just received my FFL 03 via snail mail. Mailed on 4/12/2021, Received on 4/15/2021, and mailed on 05/11/2021 and in the mailbox on 05/15/2021. 33 days start to finish.

      I went on CFARS and updated my COE with the FFL 03 information, so we will see how long it takes for the COE to complete.
      UPDATE 2: CFARS issued the COE 05/18/2021. So, 36 days total round trip for CA DOJ.

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      • CAGLS
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 3652

        C&R FFL Application Form ATF 7CR - use the official BATFE PDF form!

        Do I have to notify the Sheriff again if I already had a C&R and COE? I just had forgotten to renew it and let it lapse. [emoji1750]


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        • Dvrjon
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2012
          • 11284

          Originally posted by CAGLS
          Do I have to notify the Sheriff again if I already had a C&R and COE? I just had forgotten to renew it and let it lapse. [emoji1750]


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          If you let the FFL-03 lapse, then you’re getting a new one. Regardless, each ATF form for FFL-03 requires notification of the Chief Law Enforcement officer. COE doesn’t require notification.

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          • CAConservative 33
            Junior Member
            • May 2021
            • 2

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            • -hanko
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              • Jul 2002
              • 14174

              Asked and answered a few hundred times here...

              Who shows up if you dial 911??...Whomever does, that's the department where you mail your law enforcement copy.
              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

              Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

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              • Econut
                Junior Member
                • May 2016
                • 22

                Originally posted by MarCat
                UPDATE 2: CFARS issued the COE 05/18/2021. So, 36 days total round trip for CA DOJ.
                I came on here to read responses like this. I'm on day 35 and still haven't received my COE number. These jokers sure like to take their time.

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                • Econut
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2016
                  • 22

                  I think it doesn't really matter as long as you follow the criteria logically. For example: both the county sheriff or your local police force (such as a police chief of a small department) qualify for the criteria of 'Chief Law Enforcement Officer' in a given jurisdiction/locality in respect to your address.

                  This is the situation I was presented with when I applied for my FFL03. I live in a small town that has it's own police force. Technically my CLEO would be my towns police chief. However I thought that would be stretching it a bit to call my towns police chief the CLEO in my area. So I erred on the side of caution and sent it into my sheriff's office. Four weeks later I was sent my FFL03 from the ATF.

                  tl;dr - Play it safe and send it into the sheriffs office.

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                  • cz74
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2020
                    • 912

                    Here are my timelines:
                    5/5/21: LiveScan completed; submitted COE application on CFARS
                    5/6/21: mailed out ATF FFL03 application via USPS
                    5/6/21: got CFARS email asking reason for applying COE; re-submitted CFARS with comments that I am submitting FFL03 application for collecting C&R
                    5/21/21: ATF deposited my $30 application fee
                    5/28/21: got CFARS email asking me to upload my CA DL
                    6/5/21: received my FFL03 license in the mail

                    as of today 6/8/21: COE still says In Progress

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                    • Dvrjon
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                      • Nov 2012
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                      • Econut
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2016
                        • 22

                        Originally posted by cz74
                        Here are my timelines:
                        5/5/21: LiveScan completed; submitted COE application on CFARS
                        5/6/21: mailed out ATF FFL03 application via USPS
                        5/6/21: got CFARS email asking reason for applying COE; re-submitted CFARS with comments that I am submitting FFL03 application for collecting C&R
                        5/21/21: ATF deposited my $30 application fee
                        5/28/21: got CFARS email asking me to upload my CA DL
                        6/5/21: received my FFL03 license in the mail

                        as of today 6/8/21: COE still says In Progress
                        I got my COE one day after I posted my post. Turn around time of thirty six (working days) or ~seven weeks time. Absolutely unbelievable.

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                        • Dvrjon
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                          • Nov 2012
                          • 11284

                          Originally posted by Econut
                          -got CFARS email asking reason for applying COE; re-submitted CFARS with comments that I am submitting FFL03 application for collecting C&R.

                          I got my COE one day after I posted my post. Turn around time of thirty six (working days) or ~seven weeks time. Absolutely unbelievable.
                          Did DOJ ask for, and did you later submit, the FFL-03 info to DOJ for the COE?

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                          • cz74
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2020
                            • 912

                            Originally posted by cz74
                            Here are my timelines:
                            5/5/21: LiveScan completed; submitted COE application on CFARS
                            5/6/21: mailed out ATF FFL03 application via USPS
                            5/6/21: got CFARS email asking reason for applying COE; re-submitted CFARS with comments that I am submitting FFL03 application for collecting C&R
                            5/21/21: ATF deposited my $30 application fee
                            5/28/21: got CFARS email asking me to upload my CA DL
                            6/5/21: received my FFL03 license in the mail

                            as of today 6/8/21: COE still says In Progress
                            6/15/21: COE approved; no email from CFARS, I had to login to check status

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                            • MarCat
                              Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 138

                              Originally posted by Econut
                              I got my COE one day after I posted my post. Turn around time of thirty six (working days) or ~seven weeks time. Absolutely unbelievable.

                              Glad to learn you got it. 36 days is apparently the magic number.


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                              • Vxc
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2021
                                • 9

                                I’ll go back and check, but my FFL took about 45 days, COE about three weeks beyond that.

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