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  • botsdots
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 236

    Why do you collect?

    Felt like I'd get a better response here than under general discussion...

    I'm sure this has been asked and answered, but I'm curious what generally drives your collecting?

    I've tried to enumerate the reasons why one would want to collect anything.... what's funny is it seems like a lot of folks here "collect" ARs. My (relatively recent) collection started as a collection of engineering and aesthetics. I'm an engineer so am enamored by the physical function of most weapons. But lately I've been really getting into the stories behind the guns. What they are and why they exist.

    So that's it, what drives you? The hunt? The story? The aesthetics? The engineering? The investment?
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    ECG_88
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 718

    Originally posted by botsdots
    Felt like I'd get a better response here than under general discussion...

    I'm sure this has been asked and answered, but I'm curious what generally drives your collecting?

    I've tried to enumerate the reasons why one would want to collect anything.... what's funny is it seems like a lot of folks here "collect" ARs. My (relatively recent) collection started as a collection of engineering and aesthetics. I'm an engineer so am enamored by the physical function of most weapons. But lately I've been really getting into the stories behind the guns. What they are and why they exist.

    So that's it, what drives you? The hunt? The story? The aesthetics? The engineering? The investment?
    I would say all of those things drive my collection. History I guess falls under "the story" even if that gun doesn't have a real story. For example, a Sharps 1865 Cavalry Carbine is cool because they were made for the civil war, but then were converted to single shot cartridge instead of muzzle loaded. I don't know if the particular rifle was used by any famous person or battle, but the general history as just as cool as the specific history.

    One other category would be "The Rarity." Maybe its special because of how uncommon it is.
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    • #3
      Donkeypunch0420
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1460

      I love guns and history. C&R's are a natural progression for someone with those interests. Doesn't hurt to have a vivid imagination too.

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      • #4
        Spaffo
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1350

        I like to collect and shoot the old milsurp stuff.

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        • #5
          Romeo_alpha01
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 2029

          I’m also about the history and technological significance of the firearms I collect. What influence did it have in firearms? Why is it so well received despite being a niche design? Sometimes the pistols I have develop a sense of cache or novelty, and I would collect based on that too. I also really enjoy seeing firearm design language of different countries.

          My collection is pretty scrambled, so let’s see how you interpret me as a collector:

          HK USP Compact
          HK USP
          HK MK23
          HK P7M13
          HK HK45C
          Walther P88
          Walther P99
          Walther Q5 Match
          IMI Jericho 941
          IMI Desert Eagle
          FN Five Seven MKIi
          Beretta 92D
          Benelli M3

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          • #6
            SlowDrifter
            Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 236

            I didn't intend to, but I wound up collecting Belgian A5's. I had a spell where I just kept tripping over them for cheap. My "collection" ranges from 1913 at the oldest to 1969 being the newest. Case in point, a guy was selling the 1913 as broken because it wouldn't cycle shells. Bought it for $150.00 for parts. It's a 2.5" chamber, not 2.75". Duh... The 1969 L-12 has exactly one shot fired through it. I took it out, killed one dove with it, and put it back in the box. The kid who'd inherited it made me some low-ball offer. Once I saw it I upped his offer a couple hundo just so I could sleep at night and marched it home. Yeah....kinda' tripped over my "collection". Got about 20 of them now.
            Last edited by SlowDrifter; 05-24-2019, 6:07 PM.
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            • #7
              81turbota
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Oct 2014
              • 2956

              Quick interpretation- you favor foreign guns.
              C&R nut.

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              • #8
                sbo80
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 2265

                I like the history, and imagining the story of a rifle. I won't pay for "documented xyz" cause I'm not a museum, but it's the mystery I like. I also have no interest in never-fired, never-issued old rifles, I want something that's been used. Knowing that at some time, some soldier had to carry this very rifle around. Whether he fired it in battle or walked back and forth guarding a truck depot is irrelevant, I feel like it connects me back to that time. My first C&R was a mosin, made in france, sent to Russia, went who-knows-where, ended up in Finland, and rebuilt into a nice M39. Pretty cool.

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                • #9
                  ARFrog
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1292

                  History - to chase the bunny trail of providence of a M1 carbine or evolution of a Winchester lever gun or 22 pump

                  Sentimentality - to pick up a rifle "like" my dad or grandfather had once upon a time

                  Wonder - at the fine craftsmanship and/or beautiful wood on an old rifle

                  Mysticism - sometimes they just "call to you"
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                  • #10
                    Unsilenced
                    Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 394

                    A lot of it for me is just the feel of a previous time and place. Unusual aesthetics and unique mechanical elements are two of the biggest selling points to me, but I also like guns with some interesting fact about how they came to be. Shootability is a must. Even if they're not exactly high performers, I have to be able to make it go boom. More than once, ideally.

                    Special provenance is less interesting, and far more expensive besides. I don't really care for guns that are "bubba'd" or altered by collectors to resemble a different model, but I don't mind if a gun of mine has the wrong cleaning rod or such on it. Probably the only reason I could afford it anyways.

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                    • #11
                      Bobby Ricigliano
                      Mit Gott und Mauser
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17439

                      I have so many interests in the C&R realm, that it is easier to list what I do NOT have any interest in collecting. I have dabbled in some of these, but they did not stick around:

                      Muskets / Black Powder
                      Mausers other than 8mm
                      Japanese milsurps
                      Old West / Cowboy Stuff
                      Any oddball caliber that requires reloading or $$ ammo
                      Pocket / Hideout Guns
                      Bayonets / Knives Unless Paired to a specific rifle

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                      • #12
                        The Gleam
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 13141

                        I collect cosmoline; if I happen to find a gun in all that goop, well that's just a plus. Like finding the prize in a box of Cracker-Jack.

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                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                        • #13
                          botsdots
                          Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 236

                          What a diverse group of responses. I think the stories are a common thread as well as the joy of shooting them. Thanks for the insight!

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                          • #14
                            highpower
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2012
                            • 5309

                            I love history and for me the guns I collect embody that history. While I primarily hoard collect US arms, lately I have been dipping my toes in acquiring more foreign guns. Currently the collection has out grown my safe and then a vault I built in the house. I am starting to think that I may have a bit of a problem here.
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                            • #15
                              loademup
                              Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 433

                              I like history too, but collecting Mil Surps and Curio & Relic guns was an offshoot growing out of having guns around anyway for personal protection and recreation. You buy one Mil Surp or Curio & Relic...then see another....and another and pretty soon you get hooked...you've got the gun collecting bug...a disease that can waste away your wallet,bank account or retirement fund these days.

                              Now, I have no more storage room left and no room to add more storage, so my gun buying days are probably over unless I sell some of the ones I have...which I can't find myself doing right now because I never would be able to have the same collection for the price I paid for them yesteryear and if I could find the same guns today.


                              It also seems to me it was a lot easier to be a gun collector years ago and further back (if you had the money) than it is today price-wise, supply and demand-wise and regulatory-wise (especially if you live in California).

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