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  • Oldtimetroy
    Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 161

    Help Identifying Trapdoor rifle

    Hello,
    I am trying to identify this Trapdoor rifle that was found at an estate sale. It has some identification marks, but my eyes have a hard time with a couple of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
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    ironhorse1
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1003

    Converted Zulu shotgun

    It's a French rifle with a swinging breech conversion.

    With the exception of the American Civil War, it would be difficult to find a conflict in which so


    There are quite a few parts missing and I'm curious if it is a smooth bore or rifled. The lack of sights makes me think that it is a shotgun.

    I'm not sure what is holding things together with no barrel bands present.

    irh

    I just finished the linked article. A Zulu shotgun for the win.
    Last edited by ironhorse1; 04-30-2019, 12:10 PM.

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    • #3
      Oldtimetroy
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 161

      I believe you are correct. I was able to identify an "M" marking which lead me to French Rifles. It is indeed a smooth bore. So I believe you are spot on. Circa 1860s-1870 Snider style conversion. Zulu shot gun. Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated. Aside from the barrel bands, is there anything else you can see that are missing. I believe the spring for the extractor is incorrect as it is large and feels too tight.

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      • #4
        Spaffo
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1277

        What's the value for a rifle like this. Pretty interesting.

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        • #5
          Oldtimetroy
          Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 161

          @Spaffo they seem to be relatively cheap. Probably could snag one for under $400. What I am finding is many videos on modifying modern 12 gauge shotgun shells to black powder loads. Which makes it affordable to shot for a 150 year old black powder gun.

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          • #6
            BillnotBob
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 79

            It looks to be one of the shotguns made from a french Tabatiere, I believe the basic translation is like a snuff box. The Tabatier is a Snider like conversion of a French musket. I believe the English sued the French over the patent.

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            • #7
              Oldtimetroy
              Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 161

              You are all spot on! I really appreciate all the help.

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              • #8
                hambam105
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7083

                Looks like a Trapdoor to me alright.

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