Calling all SMLE lovers who have manufacturing capability or know someone who does.

[tomcat315]

Calling all SMLE lovers who have manufacturing capability or know someone who does. There are two projects that I think would better the lives of Lee Enfield lovers like myself.

Idea 1.

Remaking stripper/charger clips for the No. 4 and No. 1 SMLE rifles. But instead of the blued steel or more common Parkerized steel these clips would be constructed of brass much like Mosin Nagant striper/charger clips. This would allow the rounds to be charged into the magazine much more easily. They would also reduce damage to cases for us reloaders. I would be willing to supply a couple sample charger/stripper clips for reverse engineering.

Idea 2.

This second idea is for the No.4 SMLE only. Twist on muzzle breaks that use the same mechanism that attaches the bayonet. The muzzle break could be twisted easily and securely into position. This is a design similar to the muzzle break that uses the front sight of the Mosin Nagant rifle only this design in my eyes would be superior. I don't think there is any law against muzzle breaks only flash hiders. I would be willing to supply a bayonet with mechanism to help with the engineering process. It would however need to be tested on a rifle eventually for fit and function. That could be arranged if the partner is in So Cal.

Just some thoughts. Has this already been done? If so by Who? I welcome Constructive criticism and counsel. I know of a company called Valkyrie dynamics but i think they only do 1911 stuff.

[eighteenninetytwo]

Re #1. Not sure how many people use the stripper clips regularly enough to make a difference, but nice idea and I would get some

Re #2. Not sure why you need a muzzle break for a No.4?? "If it aint broke" and all that....

[tomcat315]

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Re #1. Not sure how many people use the stripper clips regularly enough to make a difference, but nice idea and I would get some

Re #2. Not sure why you need a muzzle break for a No.4?? "If it aint broke" and all that....

Of course both these points are true. Though the No. 4 certainly is not broken I believe the rifle would benefit from a muzzle Break considering the caliber. The slow rate of fire mean muzzle rise wouldn't really be a problem but some of our older shooters might like the reduction in recoil.

As far as the stripper clips go lets be honest the SMLE ones are awful compared to others. I think this is the main reason they are not used more frequently. I believe the material change would alleviate issues with difficulty charging .

Thanks for the input. It seems ar15s are the thing now. Maybe if these relics make a come back these ideas will warrant more attention.

[echo1]

Of course both these points are true. Though the No. 4 certainly is not broken I believe the rifle would benefit from a muzzle Break considering the caliber. The slow rate of fire mean muzzle rise wouldn't really be a problem but some of our older shooters might like the reduction in recoil.

As far as the stripper clips go lets be honest the SMLE ones are awful compared to others. I think this is the main reason they are not used more frequently. I believe the material change would alleviate issues with difficulty charging .

Thanks for the input. It seems ar15s are the thing now. Maybe if these relics make a come back these ideas will warrant more attention.

I have a brake on my #4, but it's a sport job, with a barrel cut, and a hooded Parker-Hale front. A little longer than a #5. The brake was in my junk stash and just happen to fit. It's the type held on with an Allen screw and I silver soldered it too. The fore arm was also cut way short, about twice the size of your hand, and the butt stock whittled at the wrist for a symmetrical circumference and stop. I added a sticky backed foam cheek piece, and use a slip on recoil pad when I use it (rarely). The wood is blond and nicely finished. Overall a good looking and decent shooting rifle. Initially I had thought of cloning a #5, and still may, but it's a back burner project now. PAX

[Latigo]

Any new firearm accessory would require a minimum startup number for production. If new tooling is required, then 500 units would be a bare minimum.

SP usually runs an interest series with pictures of the proposed product to gage interest.

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[Gowking]

I think the big question for idea #2 is how consistent is the barrel OD on the Rifles. A little slop in the bayonet is no big deal but in a brake its a bad thing.

[MajorSideburns]

I don't think many people would be interested in a muzzle brake. The real demand for SMLE collectorss would be for reproduction stocks to restore all the sporters out there.

[echo1]

I don't think many people would be interested in a muzzle brake. The real demand for SMLE collectorss would be for reproduction stocks to restore all the sporters out there.

^^^This. I have another #4 MK1/2 sport, that only the fore arm was hacked off, and of course the hand guards disposed of, but other wise can be saved. I've been patiently waiting for the right "deal" to come my way. I was helped out by another here, but that set up needs a scooch of wood work and some metal bits, versus straight change out with matching finished furniture. PAX

[capt14k]

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[tomcat315]

I don't think many people would be interested in a muzzle brake. The real demand for SMLE collectorss would be for reproduction stocks to restore all the sporters out there.

Amen to that .. even in something affordable like red oak.

[tomcat315]

I think the big question for idea #2 is how consistent is the barrel OD on the Rifles. A little slop in the bayonet is no big deal but in a brake its a bad thing.

Worth thinking about for sure. From my experience the way the no. 4 bayonet attaches with a twist makes the fit is very snug compared to the way a conventional bayonet attaches.

[tomcat315]

Any new firearm accessory would require a minimum startup number for production. If new tooling is required, then 500 units would be a bare minimum.

SP usually runs an interest series with pictures of the proposed product to gage interest.

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[tomcat315]

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I've bookmarked it and thanks. I might repost this topic over there when I have the time.

[Latigo]

SP??

SP is Swiss Products. We're am aftermarket firearm accessory manufacturer since 1999.

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[Ki6vsm]

RE #1: I have a bunch the standard strippers. What's terrible about them? Just kinda stiff steel? Rough finish (high friction) too. Maybe the ends could use some slight bending? and the inner edges a little polishing? Polishing would leave bare metal, so you would have to worry about rust I guess. But this is more doable than brass stripper clips, which may never happen unfortunately.

RE #2: If you just want less (felt) recoil, but a slip-on pad. Or use a Past shoulder pad, which work amazingly well to cut down on what you feel. IMO, the No. 4 LE doesn't need to be any heavier, or louder, than it is.