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  • TRAP55
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 5536

    H&R .44/.410

    Finally finished this headache.
    This was supposed to be a simple crack fix, and clean up the stock. What I got was, a stock shattered at the wrist, and small pieces missing. It was standing up and took a hard hit to the left side of the receiver, which pretty much snapped it in half, bending the stock bolt. It was split back to the start of the comb.
    To make it even more fun, the break happened long before I was born. So between now and then, it had been wrapped up in something I think was tape (gooey mess that took hours to remove), with a generous amount of whale oil, and later WD40 applied on a regular basis. It was stored muzzle up in a closet. This nasty mixture seeped down into the buttstock, clear to the buttplate!
    This is the third time I've had to deal with a whale oil saturated stock, but nothing this extreme. After satan snot wood stripper, steel wool and lacquer thinner scrub, it was still seeping out of the wood. I submerged it in acetone for two weeks that ended up looking like strong coffee, and it still didn't get it all. Clean enough to glue back together though.
    That's when I discovered none of the pieces lined up because everything had warped and twisted over time. Picture a banana peeled shotgun barrel, that's how the wrist was broke. Steamed, clamped, steamed, clamped, and finally got it as good as it was going to get. The steam drew out more whale oil, so back in the acetone. Just to be safe, I clamped it while I let it air dry a couple of days, then got all the available pieces glued back together.
    Had to reset all the receiver cross pins and action pivot pin, after I cleaned 100+ years of crap and rust out of it. Straightened out the stock bolt and cleaned up the threads. Tried something different on the finish to duplicate the original oil finish, turned out better than expected. It worked with all the dents, dings, scratches, and gouges that I couldn't steam or sand out.
    Life always happens when you make plans? Life happened, the shoulder injury pretty much left me without the use of one hand for the last year. That put me waaay behind. Got about 70% of the left arm working, so I'm trying to get these projects done.
    This will most likely be a wall hanger due to the age and chambering. It was made to shoot BP .44/40XL shot shells, and BP or "Lesmoke" 2.5" paper "roll crimped" .410 ammo. You can't shoot modern 2.5" plastic "star crimped" ammo. Modern smokeless is way to hot, and the chamber isn't long enough for the star crimp to open all the way up. That creates a big quick pressure spike that would blow it up. You could reload a 44/40 case with BP and a Speer .44 shot capsule, if you reload.
    When I got it:





    Before, after acetone soak/steam/clamp:




    After:


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    Enfield47
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2012
    • 6385

    Great work Trap! Glad to hear you're getting the use of your hand back.

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    • #4
      TRAP55
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 5536

      Originally posted by Enfield47
      Great work Trap! Glad to hear you're getting the use of your hand back.
      Thanks, slowly getting back to speed, ...whatever that was. If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself. This gettin old crap really sucks!

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      • #5
        pitfighter
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 3141

        Very, very nice - !
        Pitfighter.
        CA/AZ

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        • #6
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12894

          That's super! what method did you use to reattach the broken piece? Looks like the electrical tape residue had been there for more than a few decades.
          Poke'm with a stick!


          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • #7
            God Bless America
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2014
            • 5163

            What do you mean "whale oil"?

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            • #8
              Grendl
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 1657

              Exactly that. Before the petroleum industry, sperm whales were a major source fine lubricating oil.
              YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

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              Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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              • #9
                TRAP55
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5536

                What Grendl said, and the only thing worse than WD-40. Over time it's like solidified lard soaked into the wood. First time I ran into it, I didn't know what it was, almost like paraffin wax. I haven't figured out a way to get it completely out of the wood. Acetone dissolves the oil in it enough to get glue to stick, but only in the surface areas. Found out the hard way that steam does the same, but steaming wood can cause more problems than the oil. If it's in the surface of the wood, it won't take stain or any kind of finish, it just wipes off.
                SVT-40, I use a LocTite super glue in the fine cracks because I can float it into the crack, and it penetrates the wood. It's an old bottle and I'm almost out. The newer stuff sets up to fast and doesn't penetrate as well. Probably a Calif thing, if it works, we'll deem it hazardous and and ban it.
                The way this project was going, I did a test with some bedding compound, and it wouldn't stick/hold the way I wanted it to. Where the repair had to made inside, if the glass had worked, and because of the design of the receiver, it would probably be a one piece unit for ever.
                The big chunk and area it went to, got one last acetone soak, and I stuck it back together with Gorilla Glue, clamped everything together and said a prayer. The glue expanded into the pieces like it's supposed to, and the whole jigsaw puzzle set up solid. Yeah, I did a happy dance.

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                • #10
                  Grendl
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1657

                  BTW, sorry I didn't say what I thought, "beautiful work!" Future generations are lucky you got a hold of her.
                  YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

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                  Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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