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  • Dynamic
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 819

    Sino Soviet SKS C&R Status

    Hey guys, i need some clarification on a factory 26 Chinese sino Soviet sks. Would this be considered C&R and ok to purchase locally from an individual with my 03 and Coe? I searched on calguns but am reading conflicting reports on the status.

    Has any one registered one successfully with their 03 ?

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  • #2
    hifiguns
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 269

    Changing my post based on this Why the Chinese SKS is not C&R. My ghost was sold by distributor as C&R, apparently a special import from the Albanian lot. Check this site Chinese SKS
    Last edited by hifiguns; 03-15-2019, 4:48 PM.

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    • #3
      Spaffo
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 1350

      Some Chinese SKS are not yet C&R. Have to check the serial number.

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      • #4
        boris badinov
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 623

        Post a photo of the serial number.

        If you can't post photos, tell us everything stamped on the left side of the receiver.

        Any Chinese SKS that can be dated to 1968 or earlier will be eligible for C&R -- granted that the rifle is in original configuration.
        "Just the facts, ma'am."

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        • #5
          Dynamic
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 819

          It is a Six digit serial number 2705xx , blade bayo with triangle 26 on the receiver.

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          • #6
            boris badinov
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 623

            Originally posted by Dynamic
            It is a Six digit serial number 2705xx , blade bayo with triangle 26 on the receiver.

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            That would make the year of production 1957-- 100% eligible for C&R if it is still in original configuration. Doesn't have to be matching, just original configuration.
            "Just the facts, ma'am."

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            • #7
              empirearms
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Nov 2010
              • 174

              Originally posted by boris badinov
              That would make the year of production 1957-- 100% eligible for C&R if it is still in original configuration. Doesn't have to be matching, just original configuration.
              Sorry, but since China refuses to share their serial # database (along with verifiable dates of manufacture) with ATF, no SKS is considered Curio & Relic eligible *UNLESS* absolute PROOF is shown that it existed before 1969 (such as capture-papers or, as in the case of the Albanian imports, a dated receipt from 1961).

              MANY folks believe that the first two digits in the serial number rfelate to years of issue, but ATF absolutely refuses to agree!
              Dennis Kroh, owner

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              • #8
                69Mach1
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                • Jan 2006
                • 15032

                Originally posted by boris badinov
                That would make the year of production 1957-- 100% eligible for C&R if it is still in original configuration. Doesn't have to be matching, just original configuration.
                Can I please get a source for this. Just curious.
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                • #9
                  empirearms
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 174

                  Originally posted by boris badinov
                  That would make the year of production 1957-- 100% eligible for C&R if it is still in original configuration. Doesn't have to be matching, just original configuration.
                  Sorry, but since China refuses to share their serial # database (along with verifiable dates of manufacture) with ATF, no SKS is considered Curio & Relic eligible *UNLESS* absolute PROOF is shown that it existed before 1969 (such as capture-papers or, as in the case of the Albanian imports, a dated receipt from 1961).

                  MANY folks believe that the first two digits in the serial number relate to years of issue, but ATF absolutely refuses to agree!
                  Dennis Kroh, owner

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                  • #10
                    boris badinov
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 623

                    Various sources: Beginning with the thousands and thousands of Chinese Type56's that came to the US via Albanian between 2012-2015.

                    Literally tens of thousands of Chinese type56's were allowed to enter the US as C&R guns because they were sufficiently proven to have cleared the 50year requirement. I bought about 17 of them-- ALL of them as C&R guns.

                    (the real kicker here is that the dating info provided to the ATF at the time was incorrect by 1 year)

                    Once the Albanian cache arrived, the true date research began in earnest.

                    The result being this more accurate dating theory for the Chinese sks can be found here:

                    Dating the Chinese Type 56 carbine through extensive research contributed by many.


                    It can be applied to 99% of the standard configuration Type56's-- regardless of arsenal number.
                    Last edited by boris badinov; 03-15-2019, 5:59 PM.
                    "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                    • #11
                      boris badinov
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 623

                      Originally posted by empirearms
                      Sorry, but since China refuses to share their serial # database (along with verifiable dates of manufacture) with ATF, no SKS is considered Curio & Relic eligible *UNLESS* absolute PROOF is shown that it existed before 1969 (such as capture-papers or, as in the case of the Albanian imports, a dated receipt from 1961).

                      MANY folks believe that the first two digits in the serial number relate to years of issue, but ATF absolutely refuses to agree!
                      Apparently, you have been away from the sks community for at least the last six years.
                      Last edited by boris badinov; 03-15-2019, 5:46 PM.
                      "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                      • #12
                        boris badinov
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 623

                        China doesn't need to release much of anything in order to interpret a date specific serialization formula:

                        arsenal stamp + Nth year of production + quantity

                        Pretty darn simple, IYAM.
                        Last edited by boris badinov; 03-15-2019, 5:58 PM.
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                        • #13
                          69Mach1
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 15032

                          There was a batch a couple of years ago. Maybe last year. I think one source was J&G sales. My friend bought one with his C&R.
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                          • #14
                            aeropro90
                            Member
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 197

                            usually but not ALWAYS! any sks with a blade type bayonet is C&R.

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                            • #15
                              John Browning
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2006
                              • 8089

                              These are absolutely C&R and really nice rifles aside from the junky Chinese stocks.
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