Prices..

[softscrubb]

This has probably been touched on, but when I search Mosin Nagant there is a deluge of rifles for sale.

When exactly did the M91/30 become a $350+ rifle? I just saw a link for round receiver Mosins for $399.99 at a dealer?? $449.99 for a hex receiver?

Open market trying to get $350? This was a $200-250 gun less than a year ago, and that was too high.

Seems like prices for this rifle are on an unrealistic climb.

The M91/30 is a sub $250 gun, always will be. It would take some serious convincing for me to think otherwise. And yes.. I have owned and shot M91/30, M38 and M44 variants and this helps me base my sub $250 for the M91/30. Maybe $400 on the high end for a M44/M38.

[shootsocal_dave]

The millennial generation is getting into collecting and it is apparent they have moved on from the cowboy guns that our fathers collected and WWII guns are the focus point of the generations collectors. Nagant's being the cheapest entry level collector rifle would inevitably inflate as supply goes down and demand goes up.

[shootsocal_dave]

I remember wen they were sub $100 guns, always would be lol

[emcon5]

Supply and demand. Sometimes it works out in your favor, some times not so much.

[metalcruncher]

Not a millennial, but...

When my father passed away, I was left with a collection of cowboy lever actions also. I had no interest, therefore they were all sold to other collectors (almost all an older crowd).

The milsurp market used to have box stores like Big 5 dumping Yugos, Mosins and Spanish Mausers (.308 rebarrel) for $99. No longer.

And now with California's ridiculous ammunition prices, it's not cheap to hit the range.

As for reloading, the 40 year old collector like myself has two working parents, kids with activities seven days a week, and a garage full of tricycles and camping gear. Time and space are very limited. I bet it's sure easier to pay $350 for a 91/30 and buy a bunch of Wolf ammo in bulk than to shell out $1200 for a Garand and try to find 30/06 Garand ammo for cheap.

[capt14k]

This is the beginning of the bursting of the bubble. When prices rise quickly to unsustainable levels. Many collectors I know are cashing out now. Very few are buying. The period to cash out is going to be short. All bubbles burst. If anyone can point out one that hasn't I would love to hear about it. Housing, Collector Cars especially 1950s and MoPar, Civil War Firearms, Sportscards, gold, all burst. With that being said the rare and top condition will hold value (graded Mantle rookies, Honus Wagner T206). As more older collectors sell supply will increase putting further pressure on prices. There is not enough demand that being ready willing and able buyers at current prices.

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[ltong29]

I'm in my late 20s (I guess this qualifies me as a millennial) and in the short time I've been collecting K98ks (March 2017-present), prices have gone up. My first rifle was a bolt mismatch 1937 42 (Oberndorf) I paid a little under $800 for. Current pricing on bolt mismatch K98ks is sitting at ~$1000+ depending on condition and manufacture rarity, so ~25%. Russian Captured K98ks also seem to be up (don't own one) from $400 when I started to ~$500-600ish, so also ~25%-50%. All matching K98ks seem to be coming down in price, as most were $2000+ rifles are now selling in the $1600 range

[Bobby Ricigliano]

This has probably been touched on, but when I search Mosin Nagant there is a deluge of rifles for sale.

When exactly did the M91/30 become a $350+ rifle? I just saw a link for round receiver Mosins for $399.99 at a dealer?? $449.99 for a hex receiver?

Open market trying to get $350? This was a $200-250 gun less than a year ago, and that was too high.

Seems like prices for this rifle are on an unrealistic climb.

The M91/30 is a sub $250 gun, always will be. It would take some serious convincing for me to think otherwise. And yes.. I have owned and shot M91/30, M38 and M44 variants and this helps me base my sub $250 for the M91/30. Maybe $400 on the high end for a M44/M38.

Legitimate PU snipers were $500 - $600 3 years ago and have doubled in price. The price increases across the board only seem significant because the MN was overlooked and undervalued for such a long time. Arbitrary declarations that the MN is not worth the current market price are merely opinions and won't have any bearing on the market. Thankfully you can opt out of this platform if you don't feel comfortable with the prices.

[pitfighter]

The MN's have to be sourced, bought in bulk, imported and then retail sold.

Those costs go up -

The international sources of stored MN's are not as accessible as they once were, and the process of importation is a little more complex.

The end-user price will be affected.

The retail stores that stock MN's do so from bulk international importers - not from horse trading with MN aficionados and back page classifieds -

[loademup]

The MN's have to be sourced, bought in bulk, imported and then retail sold.

Those costs go up -

The international sources of stored MN's are not as accessible as they once were, and the process of importation is a little more complex.

The end-user price will be affected.

The retail stores that stock MN's do so from bulk international importers - not from horse trading with MN aficionados and back page classifieds -

Definitely, when the Mosin Nagants are no longer mass marketed at National chains like Big 5 Sporting Goods...the prices in the private market go up....the law of supply and demand at work here. Those who have the supply can make the demand upon those who want to pay.

[Garand Hunter]

Its been awhile, '89 and later, Finn '39, Swede 28-30 and its unreal how much these rifles have jumped up to price wise. This won't go over good but I consider the '91 type Mosins to be a cut above junk for a WWI & WWII military rifle. The Finns were much better. They are gone now, my '98 Mauser types remain. '03 Springfields remain. Not going anywhere, my 4th daughter will set them up for the kids and grand kids if I cross Jordan before the Lord's return occurs.

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[kcheung2]

I don't get it. Do you own one or not? If you own one now, why do you seem to dislike the idea of something you own appreciating in value? And you're unimpressed with their quality, so then sell it.

And then take the money & apply it towards a 1903 or Garand. Or do you think they're also overpriced because they were selling for under $500 in the recent past.

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[kzspec]

Also in my 20s; I am happy with my Chinese Type 53,
From what I have seen with these, they are kind of forgotten by the people looking for Mosins. Got it last fall for 200 + a spam can

[The Gleam]

The millennial generation is getting into collecting and it is apparent they have moved on from the cowboy guns that our fathers collected and WWII guns are the focus point of the generations collectors. Nagant's being the cheapest entry level collector rifle would inevitably inflate as supply goes down and demand goes up.

Sort of... it has more to do with the fact that it finally hit people that Big-5 no longer has a WEEKLY ad selling them for $89.00 for nearly the past 2 decades.