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  • sakosf
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1585

    Nice example of a pre war .45

    PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF DESCRIPTION TO VIEW ALL PHOTOS COLT ~ 1911A1 1939 U.S. NAVYRARE, OUTSTANDING CONDITION & COMPLETELY ORIGINAL! NO RESERVE!


    I expect it will command a high winning bid price.
  • #2
    God Bless America
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2014
    • 5165

    Thought the 1911's did not have the trigger finger relief cut.

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    • #3
      easy
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 1287

      In the pics it is clearly a 1911A1. Finger relief and humped mainspring housing visible.
      The thing with firearms is that they are not like any other consumer product, simple ownership of one carries a lot of responsibility.

      Some idiots are too busy knowing it all to ever learn anything
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      "...this isn't a perfect world. It's California."

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      • #4
        beetle
        The Clip guy
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2009
        • 1677

        this is what is known as a "transitional" model. About 10,000 were made in 1924 -- it incorporates the improvements from the government and Colt to the original 1911 design. This is prior to the official "A1" designation.

        a few years ago this would be a $8K gun -- I'm guessing it will hit around $10K or more.

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        • #5
          easy
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 1287

          Look at the pictures again. The close-up pics clearly show '1911A1' right on the frame. A 1939 government gun would be nothing but an 'A1' by virtue of the build date.
          The thing with firearms is that they are not like any other consumer product, simple ownership of one carries a lot of responsibility.

          Some idiots are too busy knowing it all to ever learn anything
          sigpic
          "...this isn't a perfect world. It's California."

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          • #6
            Rogerbutthead
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3858

            Page 298 of Colt .45 Service Pistols by Clawson states Serial Numbers 710001-800000 Quanity 90,000 Colt's Patent F.A. Mfg. Co Contract Reference: O.O.472/872, Sep.5, 1941

            Would this not indicate that it was a 1941 build if it is No.716551 - ?

            It would be interesting to see the Factory records he is referencing.
            Last edited by Rogerbutthead; 01-07-2019, 9:15 PM.

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            • #7
              GM4spd
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 5682

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              • #8
                beetle
                The Clip guy
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2009
                • 1677

                Originally posted by easy
                Look at the pictures again. The close-up pics clearly show '1911A1' right on the frame. A 1939 government gun would be nothing but an 'A1' by virtue of the build date.
                Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                Page 298 of Colt .45 Service Pistols by Clawson states Serial Numbers 710001-800000 Quanity 90,000 Colt's Patent F.A. Mfg. Co Contract Reference: O.O.472/872, Sep.5, 1941

                Would this not indicate that it was a 1941 build if it is No.716551 - ?

                It would be interesting to see the Factory records he is referencing.
                oops you gentlemen are correct. I didn't look through all of the pics and missed it. When I saw the fully checkered wood grips and overall look of the gun I jumped straight to transitional.

                it will be interesting to see how much this gun ends up selling for!

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                • #9
                  highpower
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2012
                  • 5321

                  Originally posted by beetle
                  it will be interesting to see how much this gun ends up selling for!
                  A quick guess would be.....a lot. Certainly out of my price range.
                  MLC member.

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                  • #10
                    sakosf
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1585

                    My knowledge is quite limited on collector class 1911 pistols......just thought you guys might like looking at the pictures and posting some knowledgeable comments.

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                    • #11
                      Rogerbutthead
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3858

                      A similar pistol not in the same shape got $5,750 in 2014.

                      Scarce Pre-War 1939 Production U.S. Navy Contract Colt Model 1911A1 Semi-Automatic PistolThis pistol is 1 of only 3,636 Colt Model 1911A1 pistols produced in 1939 for the military, with all of them shipped to the U.S. Navy Supply depot in Sewalls Point, Virginia in 4 orders. This pistol was shipped in the last group of 1,088 pistols on Dec 18, 1939. The left side of the slide is marked with the two-block 1897-1913 patent dates and address with the Rampant Colt in the center. The left side of the frame is marked with a "P" inspection mark above the magazine release and an "H" below it. The right side of the frame is marked "UNITED STATES PROPERTY/No.716309" behind the slide stop hole and "M1911A1 U.S. ARMY" in front of the hole. The upper left front of the trigger guard is marked "60" over the Colt "VP" triangle proof and "99" on the opposite side. It has an all blue barrel marked on the left side "COLT 45 AUTO", with a single "P" on the left side of the lug and a "G" on the underside in front of the lug. The top of the slide ahead of the rear sight is marked with a "P". Checkered trigger, slide stop, thumb safety, wide spur hammer, arched mainspring housing, lanyard loop on the frame heel, blue magazine, two-tone magazine and fitted with checkered walnut grips.


                      A very similar pistol appears to have gotten $7,850 in 2017.

                      This is a very rare and highly desirable Colt M1911A1 that was manufactured in 1939 as part of a Naval contract order. There were only ~3,600 Colt 1911A1's produced in 1939 and all were issued to the Navy as part of the order.
                      Last edited by Rogerbutthead; 01-08-2019, 9:42 AM.

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                      • #12
                        sakosf
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1585

                        Somebody had $$$, to have placed the high bid on this one:

                        PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF DESCRIPTION TO VIEW ALL PHOTOS SINGER MFG CO ~ 1911A1 U.S. ARMY .45 AUTOMATIC RARE & COMPLETELY ORIGINAL W/ CLAWSON LE

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                        • #13
                          GM4spd
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2008
                          • 5682

                          9 days to go. Navy 1911A1 almost 12k.

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                          • #14
                            jl7422
                            Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 420

                            The Dog takes nice pictures. . .

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                            • #15
                              GM4spd
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2008
                              • 5682

                              Originally posted by jl7422
                              The Dog takes nice pictures. . .
                              Plus,he has hi grade stuff to work with.

                              Last edited by GM4spd; 01-25-2019, 12:26 PM.

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