Ortgies

[TI-Tick]

I picked up a pair of Ortgies; a 25 and a 32 neither appear to have been shot much if at all.

The 25 broke down and reassembled easy.

The 32, not so much. The cut out on the top of the slide for the striker spring does not want to hold the striker spring for re-assembly. The cut out will hold the spring and plug without the striker tube in place; add the striker and no go. I got the 32 re assembled by using a BBQ skewer to hold the striker spring back while I mated the frame and slide. Seems to work fine now.

I'll get new springs for both from Wolf and new mags. The 25 springs sound soft; the 32 not so soft but I'll replace anyhow.

Has anyone experienced that same with the above 32 and, if so, found a solution?

[MyOdessa]

https://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Ortgies/ortgies.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVrJSgRv1k

[boris badinov]

Very nice!

IIRC, you have to be very careful with the grip panels. There is a very specific procedure for their removal and re-installation.

As far as the springs go, springs on .25 auto guns aren't very stiff to begin with. If there are no function issues you might hold on to the replacements until function becomes an issue. Especially if neither pistol appears to have been fired much.

Congrats on the double barreled acquisition

[TI-Tick]

Very nice!

IIRC, you have to be very careful with the grip panels. There is a very specific procedure for their removal and re-installation.

As far as the springs go, springs on .25 auto guns aren't very stiff to begin with. If there are no function issues you might hold on to the replacements until function becomes an issue. Especially if neither pistol appears to have been fired much.

Congrats on the double barreled acquisition

I pulled out some other 25's and 32's for comparison regarding trigger/stryker springs (with snapcaps) per my non-scientific, subjective review; soft to hard:
25 Ortgies
25 Colt 1908
32 Ortgies
32 Colt 1903 hamerless
32 Savage 1907

The Savage strike is pronounced; like a breaking branch, while the 25 Ortgies is like snapping a wet twig. The rest are between the two.

I'll follow your advice and shoot with the original springs first; replacements as needed.

Interesting stuff to experience, examine, and learn.

[metalcruncher]

I've got two large frame with the .380 barrels. After inserting the firing pin assembly (spring and plug), I've only had to use a small flat blade screw driver to get the plug into the slot. The slot should be perpendicular to the slide so if it is worn, maybe a job with a drill bit or mill to create that perpendicular edge. Keeping in mind the metal is 100 years old.

On a different note, I have an old slide with a crack. Seeing that gun broker and bay have slides for sale for around $50, is it worth having someone weld it?

[metalcruncher]

I went to my shop this morning and pulled out my large frame Ortgies (.32/.380). Here are two photos of the three part striker assemblies and the two part spring and plugs. Maybe your spring is too long. Mine both fire properly so the lengths should work in yours.

Funny that I never compared the two together before and now I see one striker is worn a lot more than the other.

Good luck with your Ortgies.

[metalcruncher]

[aeropro90]

use a very thin screwdriver put the tip in the cutout for the spring and then gently run the spring down the shaft of the screwdriver once its almost in place remover the screwdriver its an absolute female dog to do i have 2 ortgies myself

[TI-Tick]

My plan is to take both to the range as is, but w/new springs at hand to swap if needed. Bamboo skewer tool also JIC! Eta FEB also, muy mucho trabajo