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  • Shanghai guy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 562

    M39 antique receiver (tang) date & related question

    My ignore list is so big that sometimes, I will click on a thread and there's literally nothing there.
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    huntingsocal
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2319

    Antique = not a firearm

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      BrokerB
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5300

      Are there any better rifles then antique Finn Mosins?

      Great -common ammo-..shoots dam fine.. are there antique .30'06 ?

      8mm? Swiss?
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        Shanghai guy
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 562

        Thanks for the replies and good information, Gentlemen. It is very gratefully appreciated.
        My ignore list is so big that sometimes, I will click on a thread and there's literally nothing there.

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        • #5
          highpower
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2012
          • 5298

          Originally posted by BrokerB
          Are there any better rifles then antique Finn Mosins?

          Great -common ammo-..shoots dam fine.. are there antique .30'06 ?

          8mm? Swiss?
          Technically, a M88 commission rifle that has had the "S" conversion will shoot modern 8mm ammo. Not real sure if I would do it though.

          Also a great many US Krag-Jorgenson's are antiques although ammo isn't as common as it once was.

          Also, I have a question about the whole antique receiver tang/date thing. Since a M39 has, by definition, been modified from its original M91 configuration and the only thing on the rifle that is still "antique" is the receiver, doesn't it become a non antique on the date it was modified?
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          • #6
            Spaffo
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 1292

            Receiver age is the governing factor. I love to shoot my 1897 M91 Finned Mosin, btw.

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            • #7
              Jeff213
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 706

              Most of the fins I have seen were pieced together like that. Not necessarily an indication of a duffel cut.

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              • #8
                onelonehorseman
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 4888

                Most duffel cut I've seen were cut beneath the barrel band.
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                • #9
                  bbguns44
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1182

                  Yup, I've got a couple of antique M39s delivered straight to the door. Great rifles in excellent condition.

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                  • #10
                    kcheung2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 4387

                    That cut below the front sight is the normal splice location. All of them have that.
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                    • #11
                      Josh Smith
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 1091

                      Originally posted by highpower
                      Technically, a M88 commission rifle that has had the "S" conversion will shoot modern 8mm ammo. Not real sure if I would do it though.

                      Also a great many US Krag-Jorgenson's are antiques although ammo isn't as common as it once was.

                      Also, I have a question about the whole antique receiver tang/date thing. Since a M39 has, by definition, been modified from its original M91 configuration and the only thing on the rifle that is still "antique" is the receiver, doesn't it become a non antique on the date it was modified?
                      No, it won't. It's not rated for that.

                      Modern 8mm Mauser is 8x57 ISS.

                      The "S" conversion was for the 150 grain IS load.

                      Modern 8mm Mauser is very dangerous to shoot in the M88.

                      Commercial, United States ammo is downloaded to 8x57JS pressures because of the existence of the M88.

                      Regards,
                      Josh
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                      • #12
                        renardsubtil
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1659

                        Slight thread jack...but an actual thing for M39s!
                        Any of you guys ever able to get rid of the “frosted” look inside these barrels or do you leave it be after running some hot water down the barrel after a shoot and light oil?
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                        • #13
                          Josh Smith
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 1091

                          Try using a sonic cleaner first. That often removes a lot of "irremovable" stuff.

                          That said, I don't worry about it.

                          The reason corrosive ammo is corrosive is because salts form when the primer ignites.

                          These salts stay in the bore and attract water, causing rust problems.

                          It's not truly corrosive as is, say, black powder residue, which forms a weak sulfuric acid mix when moist.

                          Just get the salts out and oil the barrel.

                          I do recall reading about a cleaning method some third world country was using for their AKs: Knot a shoelace, dip in in motor oil, and pull through the barrel. Apparently it worked. Doesn't take much.

                          Regards,
                          Josh
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