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  • flyer898
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 2015

    Cabelas C&R Policies

    As I write this I am not happy with Cabelas or Bass Pro Shops - I think they have gone extreme corporate and it is no longer in my best interest to do business with them. Others may have different opinions and everyone is in a different situation and the calculus for the amount of BS one is willing to tolerate varies widely.

    To start, I am a California resident (for now) and I have a 03 FFL and a CA COE. I stopped at the Boomtown Cabelas on my way back from Reno last Saturday. My plan was to provide a copy of my renewed 03 FFL for their file and browse to see if there were any C&R firearms I wanted to add to my collection. Two years ago I purchased three handguns from them using by C&R license and took them home without any issues. Things have changed.

    The first person I spoke with told me California law no longer allows them to do this. He said the law changed this year. I know and you know this is not correct. I asked him to show me his source for this and he was unable. I wound up talking to a more experienced employee in the gun library (I have his card, but I am not going to include his name here) and he told me in essence that CA DOJ twisted Bass Pro/Cabelas figurative arm and they will only sell cartrige firing firearms to CA residents, irrespective of licensing, by shipping to a CA 01 FFL. Fine, it is not the law, but it is their policy and they are entitled to implement whatever policy makes the best sense to their business.

    Needless to say, I am somewhat disappointed in Cabelas kowtowing to CA DOJ - they are not bound by CA law, and under CA and Federal law what I proposed was lawful now and when I did it two years ago.

    What they did tell me, that offered a little hope, is that Cabelas will ship from any Cabelas gun library to the Rocklin Bass Pro, without shipping charges and Rocklin Bass Pro does not charge either shipping or a FFL transfer fee on the transaction, and for a C&R with proper documentation one can take the gun the same day. DROS and sales tax must still be paid. So far so good - I thought that would work.

    Today I called the Rocklin Bass Pro and spoke with Mark who told me he is the firearms buyer. He agreed that they waive the FFL transfer fee and for an 03 FFL with a COE they do not require the 10 day wait for a C&R, but they charge shipping and per Bass Pro Policy they charge $5 for a lock - no safe affadavit accepted (I was considering the purchase of a C&R long gun). He also alluded to the paperwork taking 45 minutes or more! I said that sounds somewhat inefficient based on my experience in many shops completing the paper work in 15 minutes or so (Sac Gun Club for one). Mark told me the extra time is taken up by extra corporate paperwork.

    I doubt I will buy anything from Bass Pro or Cabelas - they are entitled to their policy, but for now I am not interested in supporting their acquiescence with the CA DOJ arm twisting. They are not Dick's, but I think they are headed in that direction.

    I commend Mark and the gentleman at Cabelas Boomtown for taking the time to discuss this, and I am sorry we disagree.
    Last edited by flyer898; 10-13-2018, 1:13 PM. Reason: clarity
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    Borreby
    Junior Member
    • May 2013
    • 69

    I stopped at about 6 different stores (including Cabelas) with my 03 and COE while I was visiting some relatives in a free state this year. Not one would sell a C&R to me face to face. One guy was on the fence but called his ATF rep/agent to make sure - they told him it was legal but recommended only shipping to a CA dealer FFL anyway.

    Sucks.

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    • #3
      BOBGBA
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2010
      • 2386

      Originally posted by flyer898
      ...I doubt I will buy anything from Bass Pro or Cabelas - they are entitled to their policy...
      On a similar note, since Cabelas decided that they won't ship ammo to CA (even to a Brick & Mortar FFL local gunstore), I've decided that I don't really need to buy anything from Cabelas or Bass Pro Shops.
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      • #4
        flyer898
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2015

        Originally posted by Borreby
        I stopped at about 6 different stores (including Cabelas) with my 03 and COE while I was visiting some relatives in a free state this year. Not one would sell a C&R to me face to face. One guy was on the fence but called his ATF rep/agent to make sure - they told him it was legal but recommended only shipping to a CA dealer FFL anyway.

        Sucks.
        What state were you in?
        Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
        "One argues to a judge, one does not argue with a judge." Me
        "Never argue unless you are getting paid." CDAA
        "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw

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        • #5
          DanGunner
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 1188

          I agree about Cabelas/Bass Pro becoming politically correct regardless of law. Plus their ammo prices are very high. If they don' need us, we don't need them.

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          • #6
            Borreby
            Junior Member
            • May 2013
            • 69

            Originally posted by flyer898
            What state were you in?
            Michigan.

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            • #7
              I Swan
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 8770

              Originally posted by Borreby
              I stopped at about 6 different stores (including Cabelas) with my 03 and COE while I was visiting some relatives in a free state this year. Not one would sell a C&R to me face to face. One guy was on the fence but called his ATF rep/agent to make sure - they told him it was legal but recommended only shipping to a CA dealer FFL anyway.

              Sucks.
              Wow, someone actually admitting that it is actually somewhat common for out of state FFL's not to accept a 03 license from Californians.

              Many here don't want to seem to admit that. I wonder when places like J&G will start refusing too?

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              • #8
                watt79
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 557

                Same thing happened to me about two weeks ago there. Saw a nice C&R .22 pistol and was told they couldn't even ship it to a California FFL since it was not on the roster. They did tell me they were fine selling me a C&R rifle.

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                • #9
                  pterrell
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 3576

                  People don't want to deal with California laws, and I honestly don't blame them

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                  • #10
                    BOBGBA
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 2386

                    Originally posted by pterrell
                    People don't want to deal with California laws...
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                    • #11
                      Ducky's Dad
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 737

                      I bought a lot of stuff from Cabela's before their Bass Pro deal, not a single thing since then. I don't like Bass Pro. Aside from high prices, their customer service is horrible. Looks like Cabela's is headed down the same path. This thread pretty much confirms my worst fears about the "new" Cabela's.

                      As an aside, Mack's Prairie Wings now won't ship ammo to a CA FFL. So I don't even bother opening their emails any more. Seems that companies that are smart enough to become dominant players in their market space should be smart enough to realize that CA is 10% of the country's total population.

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                      • #12
                        giarcpnw
                        Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 209

                        Walked into a local gun store in Atlanta two weeks ago. Showed my C&R and walked out with a "new" old 87 year old shotgun. Brought it home on a Southwest flight with me. Eff bass pro. It's a federal license!!!! Once you purchase it and take possession, it's literally not their concern.
                        Last edited by giarcpnw; 10-14-2018, 9:59 PM.

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                        • #13
                          dfletcher
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14787

                          My C&R FFL is on file at the Reno Cabelas and I buy there regularly. Never had an issue. A few years back, and prior to the Bass Pro acquisition, Cabelas went from "show me your FFL" to 1st verifying then keeping it on file. When buying from other Cabelas I have them ship it to the Reno store. It's free and never an issue. I've bought from them a half dozen times on cross country drives, including the Scarborough, Dundee, Kearney and Sydney and Springfield stores.

                          I'll admit the 1st time the Scarborough store said "no, can't do it now" I wanted to get mad. But they offered to ship to Reno when I told them I was driving by in 3 or 4 days.
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                          • #14
                            flyer898
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2015

                            Originally posted by dfletcher
                            My C&R FFL is on file at the Reno Cabelas and I buy there regularly. Never had an issue. A few years back, and prior to the Bass Pro acquisition, Cabelas went from "show me your FFL" to 1st verifying then keeping it on file. When buying from other Cabelas I have them ship it to the Reno store. It's free and never an issue. I've bought from them a half dozen times on cross country drives, including the Scarborough, Dundee, Kearney and Sydney and Springfield stores.

                            I'll admit the 1st time the Scarborough store said "no, can't do it now" I wanted to get mad. But they offered to ship to Reno when I told them I was driving by in 3 or 4 days.
                            The experience with the Reno Cabelas is similar to my experience in 10/2016 when I purchased three C&R pistols over two visits. When I went back in 10/2018 the new policy described in the original post applied. If you bought a C&R there 10/2018 or later please let us know how you worked that magic. The name of the employee would be helpful because one could ask to have that person handle the transaction.
                            Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
                            "One argues to a judge, one does not argue with a judge." Me
                            "Never argue unless you are getting paid." CDAA
                            "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #15
                              dfletcher
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14787

                              Originally posted by flyer898
                              The experience with the Reno Cabelas is similar to my experience in 10/2016 when I purchased three C&R pistols over two visits. When I went back in 10/2018 the new policy described in the original post applied. If you bought a C&R there 10/2018 or later please let us know how you worked that magic. The name of the employee would be helpful because one could ask to have that person handle the transaction.
                              I should be able to find out this weekend - am going to the Reno gun show and most of the time I end up buying something from Cabelas. I'll post back results.

                              I've also started buying a Wiley Bros in Reno. Picked up a nice 1903 last trip, no problem. They're just south of the show on Virginia St.
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