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  • sbo80
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 2264

    bayonets don't fit

    So I decided I needed proper bayonets to go with some rifles, and I've picked up a couple, but they just don't fit at all. Muzzle rings are ok but the lugs on the rifles don't fit the handles, too tight. Is this common? I know they're old and all, but I would have though there'd be a bit more commonality on military parts. Both bayonets are of the same manufacturer and same time frame as their rifle. One is a Remington Model of 1917, late 1918 serial, 3/18 barrel, and a 1918 dated Remington Model 1917 bayonet. The other is a Gew98 1917 Waffenfabrik Mauser, and a 98/05 Waffenfabrik Mauser "butcher" bayonet with a 15 inspection stamp. These are a bit pricey to keep buying until I find one that fits, but I don't want to file on anything either.
  • #2
    sbo80
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 2264

    I should add, the first two I got bayonets for, a No1 Enfield and a M39 Mosin, both bayonets fit just fine, so I'm disappointed the trend didn't continue.

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    • #3
      Syntax Error
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 3817

      Check to see if there is gunk in the channels for the bayonet slot, sometimes years of accumulation of god knows what can impede the fit of the bayonet. You shouldn't have to take a file to anything assuming the bayonet and your bayonet lug are in good condition. Maybe put a bit of oil in the lug to help lubricate it a little, and just put it on and off again and it should break in over time.

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      • #4
        hambam105
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2013
        • 7083

        If the pig-stickers don't fit then they are either $ totally worthless or very valuable.

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        • #5
          19K
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 3621

          If the rifles were refurbed they’ve probably had extra parkerization, bluing, or new old stock parts that are extremely tight

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          • #6
            Rogerbutthead
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3794

            I recall buying an Arisaka Type 38 at a gun show in the 80's and walking a few tables down and buying a bayonet for it - and being disappointed that it rattled it was so loose. The bayonet seller - he had buckets of bayonets - said not every bayonet fit tightly, so I guess some won't fit at all either.

            The disappointment I guess is more severe as you were waiting for some time to get the two together.

            What else is there to say?

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            • #7
              23 Blast
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 3754

              Hmm. I guess men and women have the same problem. Too tight, or too loose.

              The best solution is to try many different bayonets to find the right fit.
              "Two dead?!? HOW?!?"
              [sigh] "Bullets, mortar fire, heavy artillery salvos, terminal syphilis, bad luck --- the usual things, Captain."

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              • #8
                CinnamonBear723
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 1874

                Bayonets for older rifles can be finicky. Especially when some parts are newer and some older. I've got a few that take a good bit of work to get on and off.

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                • #9
                  MasterChief
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 565

                  Endless apologies if you already knew this: On those rifle/bayonet combinations where the bayonet fits over the cleaning rod, make sure the cleaning rod isn't the cause of your fitment problem. Guess how I know this...

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                  • #10
                    FeuerFrei
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7455

                    Old hardened cosmoline in the bayonet locking mechanism is my wag.
                    Give it a good soak in lighter fuel and see what comes out. Try to fit it on the rifle when it's still wet and see if it will knock the crap loose. Rinse and repeat... blah...blah...etc..
                    My cmp Garand needed a bayonet and the one I bought for it was really nice. Except for the locking mechanism notch. It would not go on far enough to lock.
                    Mil surp rifles should all have their own bayonet.

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                    • #11
                      Ura
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 226

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                      • #12
                        BrokerB
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5280

                        my isahpore 21a bayo does not go on. There is a very thick coat of BBQ paint though, not much of a reason to scrape paint off as this will be pretty far if not last on my list to use if a bayo is needed: )
                        Beans and Bullets

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                        • #13
                          loademup
                          Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 433

                          I've got a number of bayonets for my military curio and relic rifles. All of my bayonets are genuine military issue. and some fit loose and some fit tight on the lug. I think this is pretty common given the condition of your rifle's attachment points (service wear, replacement parts...etc.) and the bayonet locking mechanism. Things like re-Parkerization may also cause tight fitting issues. As some have noted, a thorough cleaning may help.

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                          • #14
                            DennisCA
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 4021



                            (Just kidding - sort of)
                            "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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                            • #15
                              FeuerFrei
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 7455

                              Originally posted by DennisCA


                              (Just kidding - sort of)
                              Never underestimate the power of percussive maintenance. [emoji16]

                              Sent using a long string and 2 used soup cans

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