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  • bobfried
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1448

    Resto-modding a German K-43 (G43 to some) COMPLETED

    UPDATE #2


    For those too lazy to read everything this picture just sums it up:

    Shot at 2009-04-10


    Original Post


    I was able to pick up a K-43 from a member of Calguns a few weeks back and have endeavored to restore/modify it into a somewhat correct period shooter. I honestly did not realize how EXPENSIVE the process would be and I'm using reproduction parts anywhere I can.

    This is as I received it:

    *See first Image*

    This is how it looks as of tonight:



    So far I have replaced or added the following:

    - Op rod spring
    - Long recoil spring
    - Short secoil spring
    - Extractor spring
    - Hammer spacer
    - Hammer spring
    - Reproduction period stock
    - Imbel side door butt-plate
    - Cleaning rod

    I also bought a scope mount for the rifle and am currently hunting down a ZF-4 scope, if I can't find one in the next two week I will be using a Weaver K-4 in it's place until I find the appropriate scope.

    I am currently missing these parts and am looking for them:

    - Front band
    - Front band L spring
    - ZF-4 Scope
    - Dust Cover
    - Front Sight hood

    The most labor intensive part so far have been to properly inlet the stock for the trigger guard plate and butt plate as well as for a more snug fit with the action. I also sanded down and stained the stock with 2 coats of lacquer so far, I might do a third coats but at 1 coat a day I might just call it finish. The sporter stock it came with was bedded and I think I might be going that route. The bedding gives the fit of the action a much more solid feel and definitely strengthen up the rifle considerably. I won't bed it until after I have scope the rifle and do some testing to see if it is needed with the new stock.

    My goal is to make this into a semi-period correct shooter that I can take to the range and have fun with. I've been through some expensive and tough C&R projects before but I'll have to say this one will probably top them all. The cost of replacement and accessorizing this rifle will be MORE than what I paid for it. I'll keep this thread up to date so people can follow along on what I'm sure will be an interesting project.


    Update #1


    A special thanks to everyone that have PM'ed and posted information on this thread, the last few days have been interesting.

    I want to the Costa Mesa show with Spiggy in hope of finding some parts. I came home almost empty handed. Spiggy was gracious enough to offer me a front sight hood and I was happy to get it. I was in search of a period scope to mount on the rifle, have my heart set on a Weaver K4 until I took a closer look at it and realize it would NOT work. The scope could not be mounted the correct way since the mount simply does not work with the K-4 oriented traditionally as the turrets gets in the way. If I rotate the scope so that the turrets face the 9 and 12 o'clock position it would work, but than it would be almost impossible to pull back on the bolt carrier. So I scrounged around and found an old 4x Bushnell Sportsman with a steel tube that has the turrets shaped just right to get it to work with the mount.

    The rifle with the scope mount, scope and front sight hood installed:


    I also ordered all the parts I needed to complete this rifle from the following:

    Sarco: Front band, various pars (sling, pins, springs)
    Numrich: Some more pins and screws
    Apfeltor: barrel band spring and one of his shooter kit

    This rifle should be completed by Update #2, I'll have more info when I get it all assembled and dolled up. I will rub the stock down in a few days once the finish have cured enough to give it the appropriate matte look. Also have a range day scheduled in 2 weeks to get everything dialed in.

    UPDATE #2


    Well she's DONE, this was a hard project but surprisingly quick to put together. Parts are amazingly scarce but my time was the right time and I was able to find everything I needed to complete the project. Before we get to the nitty gritty here are some new pics:

    *See top of post for BEFORE/AFTER Picture*



    This last pics shows exactly why Meopta's a great brand, I always wanted to own one of their scopes but never had a reason to till now. Late production post-war Czech scope, notice the VZ43 designation and the Meopta logo.


    Here's a parts list break down and where I got each part:


    What surprise me the most was the cost of this entire restoration project. I ended up spending more on replacement parts than I did on the actual rifle itself.
    Last edited by bobfried; 04-10-2009, 5:50 PM.
  • #2
    knucklehead0202
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 4086

    i'm surprised the purists aren't screaming at you. nice work and good luck! let us know how she shoots.

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    • #3
      Rogerbutthead
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3666

      You might ask Claus if he has any of the parts you need.



      K43s were not varnished, they have rough chatter marked stocks that were sometimes darkened with old motor oil or whatever was available.

      Collectors pay premiums for the usually naked chatter marked stocks of the few late war originals still out there.

      If you do want to shoot it, you may want to examine Apfeltor's site to view his shooter's kit.

      Use this site for the best in G43 & K43 rifle restoration and parts. Shooters Kits are available that turn your Stored Gun into a Range Gun!


      I have been told that on the G/K43 Forum there was a recent posting of how a Yugo 1953 dated 8mm round had a case failure and destroyed various parts of the rifle. No shooter's kit will protect you from that. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=102688

      Good Luck.
      Last edited by Rogerbutthead; 03-28-2009, 10:29 PM.

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      • #4
        bobfried
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1448

        I'm using Canadian surplus right now so no worries there, I have a bunch of Yugo but that goes to feed my K98's. I've been looking at Apfeltor's site and have emailed him, especially on the spring band since he's the only one that has any. Thanks for Claus's site, I will contact him if Sarco or Apfeltor doesn't have what I need.

        As far as the purist, how I received it in the sporter stock is far less original than what I have it in now. I used a reproduction stock so I am finishing it how I want, not how it originally was. This is going to be a shooter so some concessions are going to be made in regards to originality. If this was an all original rifle I wouldn't touch it, but as was, in a sporter stock and missing a quite a few parts, I have no qualms in playing with it. When I am finish it will be MORE original than when it came to me.

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        • #5
          Rogerbutthead
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 3666

          Your rifle currently certainly appears more in the original configuration than your first pic.

          I am curious as to what the whitish looking object on the stock above the trigger is and what - if anything - it says.

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          • #6
            Spiggy
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2006
            • 8688

            you wont need the cover or sight hood, but if you need a sighthood I got one spare kicking around the desk
            Originally posted by AJAX22
            Anti gun BS...

            Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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            • #7
              bobfried
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 1448

              Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
              Your rifle currently certainly appears more in the original configuration than your first pic.

              I am curious as to what the whitish looking object on the stock above the trigger is and what - if anything - it says.
              That was an inspection tag for a CMP match that the previous owner entered in about 15 years ago, he said he ranked quite high amongst a field of Garands.

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              • #8
                Rogerbutthead
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 3666

                I should mention that there is sometimes a clearance problem with repro mounts, they hold the scope a tad too low.

                When the bolt carrier goes back and forth, the right corner of the bolt carrier may strike the bands - usually the rear one the hardest - this eventually breaks the band. So check your clearance once you get your ZF4.

                Some people use Russian PU scopes until they get a ZF4.

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                • #9
                  Jarhead
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2847

                  Originally posted by knucklehead0202
                  i'm surprised the purists aren't screaming at you. nice work and good luck! let us know how she shoots.
                  looks better than it did, bring a weapon back from its state of Bubba is always a good thing. following may help.





                  Use this site for the best in G43 & K43 rifle restoration and parts. Shooters Kits are available that turn your Stored Gun into a Range Gun!


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                  • #10
                    knucklehead0202
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4086

                    yugo surplus will probably shoot okay through it. hakims sure love the stuff.

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                    • #11
                      Sampachi
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 812

                      Originally posted by knucklehead0202
                      i'm surprised the purists aren't screaming at you. nice work and good luck! let us know how she shoots.
                      Why would we? He's attempting to RESTORE it back to it's original configuration. It will never be worth as much as one in original condition, but it will sure be worth more than it was after Bubba messed with it. That's a good thing.

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                      • #12
                        tujungatoes
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 7942

                        Congrats on rescuing that rifle. You got it lookin' good.

                        I have to agree with rogerbutthead. No 50's Yugo in that rifle!....ever! I was sitting 2 benches away when that stuff kaboomed my buddys k43. It was not a happy day.





                        Hope you find what you need to finish it. Have fun shooting that rifle.


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                        • #13
                          Full Clip
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 10260

                          Good work on that rifle.
                          I've "restored" a couple Enfields and it was very satisfying to have a final product that was at least close to the original look.
                          Bubba loses another round!

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                          • #14
                            Rogerbutthead
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 3666

                            To add to the list of sites for this weapon - Chuck has a great site with a ton of info for the G43 enthusiast.



                            A visit there is well worth the effort.

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                            • #15
                              mj1
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 3317

                              Enjoy your toy.
                              Try pulling the bullets and replacing the powder with IMR 4895 in the mid 30g's useing your hand loads for 2300~2400 fps.
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                              I will deliver or ship, details to be arranged with buyer.
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