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  • Jet Setter
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2012
    • 5348

    Jungle Carbine

    Hello all,

    I have always been interested in Enfields and was wondering what I need to look for in a Jungle Carbine. Apart from general condition, what particular stamps or markings should I look for? Is there a good way to spot a fake? These days, what price should I expect?

    Thanks, Jet
    *********************
    WTS:
    1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
    2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
    3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)
  • #2
    Ora Serrata
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 1747

    Some things to look for: original rubber butt pad, conical flash hider, bolt handle ball is hollowed out. Year of manufacture ( they didnt start making them until later in the war). The sights have elevation to only 800 yards).

    If it says Golden State Arms or Santa Fe it's an aftermarket conversion.

    I've got two jungle carbines. Both with matching numbers. I've seen them go generally between $500-700. I've seen $900 on Gun Broker. I also just missed one at Turners for $300.

    I have a friend with an Ishapore conversion in 7.62. Fun to shoot but side by side the differences are very obvious. Good luck!

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    • #3
      highpower
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2012
      • 5315

      As mentioned, real No5's have several distinguishing features. Things like bolts and sights can be swapped with standard No4 parts, but other features are not so easy to fake.

      The receivers have a different contour of the lightening cuts on both sides by the rear sight than those on a regular No4.



      Compare the above pics with the rear sight area on a standard No4Mk1


      The barrels are lightened at the knox form.



      Mine is kind of beat, but is an original No5 with a good bore. I believe I paid $300 for it last year when I picked it up.


      MLC member.

      Biden, proof that stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

      Dumocraps suck balls.

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      • #4
        Hamsterbear
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 108

        With the US firmly in the fight of WWII and Russia turning the tide on the Eastern Front, the British finally had a chance to properly reinforce their former holdings in the Far East.Part of this effort was the lightening and shortening of the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk I rifle.The new carbine was intended for combat in the dense jungles of Burma, Malaya, and China and would only need to be accurate up to 400 yards.


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        • #5
          Hamsterbear
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 108

          With the US firmly in the fight of WWII and Russia turning the tide on the Eastern Front, the British finally had a chance to properly reinforce their former holdings in the Far East.Part of this effort was the lightening and shortening of the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk I rifle.The new carbine was intended for combat in the dense jungles of Burma, Malaya, and China and would only need to be accurate up to 400 yards.


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          • #6
            Jet Setter
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2012
            • 5348

            Thank you for the crash course. Truly appreciated. I am hoping to check one out next week.
            *********************
            WTS:
            1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
            2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
            3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)

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            • #7
              Jet Setter
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2012
              • 5348

              So, I managed to check out a nice looking piece. Only issue I had was the top of the butt plate. it appears that it was rounded off at the top (no more extended metal where it screws into the stock). The stock was repaired to even out the low spot where the butt plate would be recessed into it. Other than that, the rifle was beautiful.

              It is stamped 12/45 No5 MKIROF(F). Also stamped with Crown and BNP? Bore looked great too. The owner is yet to decide if he will sell or what price he wants. Until then, I am still looking for a nice example.
              Last edited by Jet Setter; 06-28-2018, 7:20 PM.
              *********************
              WTS:
              1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
              2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
              3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)

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              • #8
                CinnamonBear723
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 1874

                Such a sweet piece of history. I've been casually shopping for one for years now but it's just not high enough on my priority list...yet

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                • #9
                  Milsurp1
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 3091

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                  • #10
                    knucklehead0202
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4087

                    Jungle Carbines are super-cool, only enfield i ever really wanted. I got one, then kinda fell in love with No. 1 Mk.III's. Didn't get one but a No. 1 MkV found it's way to me. Unicorn!

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                    • #11
                      BigPimping
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 21479

                      Mowgli would approve😎
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                      PIMP stands for Positive Intellectual Motivated Person

                      When pimping begins, friendship ends.

                      Don't let your history be a mystery

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                      • #12
                        ccandgc
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2142

                        I'm thinning the heard....I have at least 1 to sell. LMK if you're interested.
                        -Chad

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                        • #13
                          Jet Setter
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 5348

                          Well, a friend may possibly sell me one from his collection. I hope to check it out as soon as I can get up to Reno.

                          Thanks for all the great info.
                          *********************
                          WTS:
                          1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
                          2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
                          3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)

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