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  • heyjerr
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2008
    • 1184

    Armsport replica, 1858 Remington

    I'm not a black powder guy at this point but I have always had my eye out for .44 cal 1858. I came across this unfired version at a local shop and it really stood out. A bit fancier than I'd have figured I'd like, but the $149 price meant I really couldn't pass it up.

    My magnet won't stick to the frame, so I'm guessing that's plated brass. I'm just not sure what it's plated with. Also not sure what the cylinder and loading lever are plated in (same material, just colored?).

    From what little I could find online, it seems to be a replica from the 70's or 80's and cylinders most likely won't swap with Pietta or Uberti. Based on the price, I would assume it's not valuable but I'm wondering whether or not I should even think about shooting it.

    What say the black powder experts?

    Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.
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    condor
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1102

    The price is OK, but you can find mint Uberti and Pietta 1858 New Army's in that same price range. This one almost looks like it was painted with that new spray on chrome process... http://www.sprayonchrome.com/index2.html Looks like cheap pot metal. It'll probably shoot but not for very long.
    WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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    • #3
      Bainter1212
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2013
      • 5936

      No reason not to shoot it. Reduced loads through a brass frame is just fine. I use 25gr of 3f in my brass 1858 (which I am selling soon).
      That price was too high though, especially with that ugly plating job. You can find these for really cheap in the used market if you pay close attention.

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        musketjon
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1746

        Why buy the toys if you're not going to play with them?
        Jon

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        • #5
          condor
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 1102

          Originally posted by musketjon
          Why buy the toys if you're not going to play with them?
          Jon
          Because it's an enjoyable disease.....
          WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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          • #6
            Capt Quahog
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 108

            Revolver looks to be marked A.S.M. which would be "Armi San Marco". There was that outfit and "Armi San Paulo" building decent replica BP guns back in the 1960s and 1970s. Many were marketed through Lyman. Some of those guns are reported to have forged frames . It the stuff on the outside is nickel plating then a magnet would probably NOT stick even if the frame is steel.

            Have an Armi San Paulo 1861 Beales-Remington Navy 36 which is quite faithful to the original gun. A number of these old A.S.P. and A.S.M. black powder guns are so good, that they are recognized suitable for authentic reenactment use by serious Civil War historical groups.
            Last edited by Capt Quahog; 03-16-2018, 9:59 AM.

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            • #7
              heyjerr
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2008
              • 1184

              Unfortunately the "ASM" is part of the "assembled in Italy" statement, just shortened.
              Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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