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  • CaliforniaLiberal
    #1 Bull Goose Loony
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2008
    • 4690

    Why the Hate for the CMP?

    The CMP announces that it is preparing to sell GI 1911s and the internets are swamped with posts about how messed up the CMP is. They are sick, bad, unfair, incompetent; their guns are in bad condition, too expensive, a ripoff of honest customers.

    Now there are 80,000 M1 Garands coming back from overseas and here comes another tsunami of criticism and online hate.

    Can someone please help me understand this irrational spite and hatred?


    My point of view is that CNP is chartered by Congress and must follow the rules that govern them. Their legally mandated purpose is to promote youth and adult marksmanship and firearm safety.

    Money from their sales goes to run their competitive marksmanship programs and to be set aside in an endowment to pay for future activities after all surplus firearms are sold.

    They are not for profit and are required to sell at market value. Their requirements for sales and firearm grading criteria and prices are published for all the world to see, no surprises.

    They are world class experts in repairing and tuning the surplus firearms they sell. They get guns in every state of disrepair and wear and return them to excellent condition, and test fire them and make sure they are safe.

    You can buy all sorts of crap Garands online and in Gun Shops, but none of them are in such good condition or as accurate as a CMP Garand. You know exactly what you're getting.

    I believe that their Prices and Grading System are very fair. Everything is laid out for you to make your informed decisions. They are famous for their excellent customer service.

    Now and then they get a little slow when they're getting truckloads of mail, emails and phone calls after some earth shaking event like running out of a particular model of firearm or when new firearms first go on sale. I think this is pretty understandable.

    Their sales packet is not that hard to fill out and their requirements are not the House of Torture that some make them out to be. Join the CRPA ferchrissake. Get a signature Notarized. It won't make you bleed.


    CMP website:

    About CMP

    CMP Sales. Here lies that Horrifying Application Packet you have heard so much screaming about.

    1911 Sales and Information

    CMP Sales Update email list, they only email you when there is something new in Sales
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  • #2
    Dark Hunt
    Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 420

    The same reason that people here complain about the price of guns in the marketplace. People as a general rule are whining pissants.
    NRA Endowment Life Member

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    • #3
      kcheung2
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4387

      What? What hate for the CMP? The only opinions I've come across is that people aren't optimistic about the condition of the guns.
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      • #4
        njineermike
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2010
        • 9784

        Seeing as I limit my online exposure, I've seen none of the above. Then again, I dont care what other people think about almost everything, so it's insignificant anyway. Get a gun and don't pay attention to tools.
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        Dude went full CNN...
        Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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        • #5
          TMB 1
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2012
          • 7153

          Originally posted by kcheung2
          What? What hate for the CMP? The only opinions I've come across is that people aren't optimistic about the condition of the guns.
          ^this^
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          • #6
            Spyder
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2008
            • 17026

            Originally posted by Dark Hunt
            People as a general rule are whining pissants.
            As an occasional whiner, I'll second this.

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            • #7
              ccandgc
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2142

              You forgot the "entitled" crowd who somehow feel their ancestors paid some sort tax at one point in the distant past thus earning them a right to a handout.
              -Chad

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              • #8
                Ferd Berfel
                Banned
                • Jan 2018
                • 20

                Burrocrazies suck, no matter what they do.

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                • #9
                  Springfield45
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2426

                  I have five rifles from CMP and I could not be more happy with their services. Anyone who says anything less than that is just a hater and will be at be happy with anything.

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                  • #10
                    the_tunaman
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2389

                    CMP rocks! Haven't seen hate being spouted, but maybe not traveling in the same circles.
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                    • #11
                    • #12
                      jarhead714
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 8677

                      I think the hate stems from the price. People feel that because there were millions made some 60 or 70 years ago, with not a whole lot captured, destroyed or given away, that perhaps the price should be a little lower. I tend to agree. I think the entire Garand market is inflated but that's just the same guys buying their 3rd, 4th, and 5th M1's that they can't really shoot without rolling their own ammo or spending more money for an adjustable gas system.

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                      • #13
                        Grendl
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1657

                        Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
                        Can someone please help me understand this irrational spite and hatred?
                        Because the internet is a hate machine.
                        YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

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                        Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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                        • #14
                          ca_sig_z
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 61

                          Originally posted by jarhead714
                          I think the hate stems from the price. People feel that because there were millions made some 60 or 70 years ago, with not a whole lot captured, destroyed or given away, that perhaps the price should be a little lower. I tend to agree. I think the entire Garand market is inflated but that's just the same guys buying their 3rd, 4th, and 5th M1's that they can't really shoot without rolling their own ammo or spending more money for an adjustable gas system.
                          I am not sure about the price being inflated from CMP. If you look at the open market people are selling what is pretty much CMP Garand rifles at 30-50% markup. If anything they are under priced from CMP if you look at the open market.

                          Now as for some of the hate towards CMP I think a lot of it comes from the 1911. People I think where hoping for a way to get cheap 1911 but instead CMP is going to treat them as collectors pieces. On top of some of the army regs like it must go to FFL01 are getting people mad. Some of blame must also go to Mark Johnson, some of his post on the CMP make him look like a dick, like that LGS owner people hate. He could be a bit more professional in his comments and posts.

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                          • #15
                            ccandgc
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2142

                            When there are a thousand people asking the same questions over and over, yeah, I'm sure it gets irritating. Professional responses are one thing, but actually having the courage to use the search function is another. Everything has pretty much been answered.
                            -Chad

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