Bill Changing the Dates for What Qualifies as an Antique.

[jd428jd]

Bill would expand antique firearms definitions nationwide

http://www.guns.com/2017/07/27/bill-would-expand-antique-firearms-definitions-nationwide/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5979f56604d3014bbdca6cc2&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

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[highpower]

How about a brief synopsis so we don't click on a blind link?

[jd428jd]

How about a brief synopsis so we don't click on a blind link?

Sure, check the edit.


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[AR22]

That would be great, hope it makes it through. But am pretty doubtful. I do commend the Senator for at least trying though.

[2meterB]

How about a brief synopsis so we don't click on a blind link?

It changes the definition to 100 years

[CGZ]

Makes sense I guess, won't be till the the 2040's to get basic semi autos. Lugers and 1911s would be the most avaliable semi auto pistols, most would be bolt action rifles of which there are already many that qualify as antique that are essentially the same as most other WWI Era rifles (Mosin Nagants, pre 98 model mausers). All the semiautomatic rifles of that era are experimental and demand very high premiums now. Don't know how this would affect full autos any differently than they are treated now.

[81turbota]

I like the bill a lot, but a tough hurdle to cross is the "commercially available" ammo. If they got rid of that too, then its golden. Many 1917 firearms can be fed by ammo you can buy at any store.

Now let's get CA to reinstate the rolling 30 year smog exemption!

[knucklehead0202]

I like the bill a lot, but a tough hurdle to cross is the "commercially available" ammo. If they got rid of that too, then its golden. Many 1917 firearms can be fed by ammo you can buy at any store.

Now let's get CA to reinstate the rolling 30 year smog exemption!

^^^This! My car is almost 30 years old so that would be awesome. It used to be 25 years BTW. Far as the "commercially available" ammo thing on the antiques, I believe it's "commercially-produced in the U.S." which could be a game-changer. Obviously some would still be out, but many would not. As unlikely as this is to pass, we probably don't need to worry about it. If it did, I reckon they'd probably revise the verbage far as ammo is concerned anyhow. Neat idea but i'm not going to get excited.

[Milsurp Collector]

Makes sense I guess, won't be till the the 2040's to get basic semi autos. All the semiautomatic rifles of that era are experimental and demand very high premiums now.

The Remington Model 8 (top), designed by John Browning, was introduced in 1906 as the Remington Autoloading Rifle. In 1911 the rifle was rechristened the Model 8, and over the next 25 years more than 80,000 copies were made.

The Winchester Model 1907 (bottom) was introduced in 1907 and was in production until 1957.

Both centerfire semiautomatic rifles were sold commercially to civilians and are available today for reasonable prices.

[2meterB]

I like the bill a lot, but a tough hurdle to cross is the "commercially available" ammo. If they got rid of that too, then its golden. Many 1917 firearms can be fed by ammo you can buy at any store.

Now let's get CA to reinstate the rolling 30 year smog exemption!

What about ammo?

[81turbota]

What about ammo?

The current law, last sentence. This bill would have to modify the ammunition verbiage because there are 1917 firearms that shoot 9mm, 30-06 and so on. Yes, there are antiques that can currently fire "available" ammunion but the types aren't as common as 9mm for example.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guides-importation-verification-firearms-national-firearms-act-definitions-antique

[Paulie Lugnuts]

Is a Krag built in 1898 less dangerous then one built in 1899? How many gang members are walking around with WWI era Lugers or 1911s? Sadly, common sense laws like this have little chance of passing.

[mrvkamp]

I'd look for this to pass at the same time as Reciprocity and the Hearing Protection Act.

[81turbota]

Is a Krag built in 1898 less dangerous then one built in 1899? How many gang members are walking around with WWI era Lugers or 1911s? Sadly, common sense laws like this have little chance of passing.

Agreed 100%

[cvigue]

A Senate measure would change the federal definition of an antique firearm from one made before 1899 to one that is 100 years old.

Introduced earlier this month as S.1541, the move would dramatically increase the number of older guns that are available to collectors that could be sold and shipped without a Federal Firearms License.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives generally does not regulate antique guns as defined under federal law as one made in or before 1898 that is not otherwise controlled by National Firearms Act. This means current “pre-1899” guns enjoy a premium with collectors over firearms of the same model made after the cutoff that can be transferred and shipped across state lines without an FFL due to their exemption.

Sponsored by U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., the text of S.1541 would strike the 1898 language, established in 1968, and replace it with “the calendar year that is 100 years before the calendar year in which such determination is being made.”

This would mean that, if implemented in 2018, non-NFA controlled guns made in or before 1918 would be exempt from federal regulations. This would free up most World War I-era rifles, trench guns and pistols from the ATF’s purview. Further, the determination would roll forward every year.