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  • Dirtbiker
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2810

    CA ID requirment

    I have a young man interested in one of my C&R rifles but he is in the military and does not have a Ca ID. He is stationed in Ca but a resident of AZ. What do or can I do?
    Last edited by Dirtbiker; 02-27-2009, 10:22 AM.
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    cgseanp1
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4651

    Originally posted by Dirtbiker
    I have a young man interested in one of my C&R rifles but he is in the military and does not have a Ca ID. He is a resident of Ca. What do or can I do?
    I'm assuming this is about me.. I am not a CA resident, I'm an AZ resident stationed here in CA. Sorry for the confusion. Maybe that will make it easier and make me automatically not eligable.

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    • #3
      Dirtbiker
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 2810

      I'd like to find out either way. For future reference.
      To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

      Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        fignuts81
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 54

        As long as he has proof that he is stationed here. When I was active duty I was a resident of WI I just had to show a current copy of my orders that said I was stationed in San Diego along with my Wisconsin Drivers License and that was good enough.
        Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. Mark Twain

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        • #5
          EOD Guy
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1229

          Originally posted by Dirtbiker
          I have a young man interested in one of my C&R rifles but he is in the military and does not have a Ca ID. He is stationed in Ca but a resident of AZ. What do or can I do?
          Active duty military stationed in California are California residents for the purpose of purchasing firearms. All he needs is a copy of his orders assigning him to California and his military ID card for identification.

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Code of Federal Regulations
            TITLE 27 - ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND FIREARMS
            CHAPTER II - BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
            SUBCHAPTER B - FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
            PART 478 - COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
            subpart b - DEFINITIONS
            478.11 - Meaning of terms.

            State of residence. The State in which an individual resides. An individual resides in a State if he or she is present in a State with the intention of making a home in that State. If an individual is on active duty as a member of the Armed Forces, the individual's State of residence is the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. An alien who is legally in the United States shall be considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in the State and has resided in the State for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale or delivery of a firearm. The following are examples that illustrate this definition: Example 1. A maintains a home in State X. A travels to State Y on a hunting, fishing, business, or other type of trip. A does not become a resident of State Y by reason of such trip.
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            • #7
              Mssr. Eleganté
              Blue Blaze Irregular
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 10401

              Dirtbiker,

              If you are a C&R FFL then you can sell C&R rifles and shotguns to folks from out of state. You just need to follow a few rules to comply with both Federal and California law...

              - the firearm must be a C&R rifle or shotgun (Federal)
              - the out of state buyer must come to your licensed premises for the transfer (Federal)
              - the sale must follow the rules of California and of the buyers State (Federal)
              - the firearm must be over 50 years old (California)

              As was already mentioned by everybody, your current buyer is considered a California resident for firearms buying purposes because of his military orders. But you could also sell it to him if he was not in the military, as long as you follow the above rules.


              and a licensed collector may sell or deliver a rifle or shotgun which is a curio or relic, to a nonlicensed resident of a State other than the State in which the licensee's place of business is located if the purchaser meets with the licensee in person at the licensee's premises to accomplish the transfer, sale and delivery of the rifle or shotgun and the sale, delivery and receipt fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such States.
              Last edited by Mssr. Eleganté; 02-27-2009, 9:06 PM.
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