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  • hardlyworking
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1210

    Recommendation Request

    Good morning C&R People!

    I am interested in starting a C&R collection and being as the BATFE has just charged my card to the tune of $30, I think an 03 must be headed my way!

    Can you all recommend a few things to start looking into. I am brand new to this stuff and have loads of questions, but to get me started I would really like to describe what I'm looking for and see what kind of answers you might give. If you don't mind, could you throw a rough price guide up with your recs as that would help a lot getting me started.
    I am looking foremost, for a shooter. Doesn't have to be 1 MOA, but I would like to be able to do an Appleseed with it (and qualify expert)
    Good iron sights
    Decent mechanics for loading/reloading
    Sling mounts
    Amenable to reloading (for accuracy not blowing up the action)
    A fun project - I've never seen/smelled Cosmoline so I figure I'd best jump right in and learn to love it.

    The only thing C&R'y I've shot before was an SKS and while the gun it self was a lot of fun to shoot, that rear sight was not my favorite. So I'm pretty sure SKS is in my future but I wanted to hear what you all have to say. Also a CMP Garand, which may be all the answer anyone needs. Say no more. Unless, you know, you want to.

    Thanks!
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    capt14k
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 1301

    Bolt Action rifles that are accurate and have history Finnish M/28-30 ($500-800) and M/39 ($350-650).

    Accurate Rifles Swiss K-31 ($450-600) and Swedish M-96 ($350-500).

    Semi Auto Garand ($750-1,250) and Swedish AG42B Ljungman ($900-$1,250)

    My personal favorite semis FN-49 ($900-$1,500) and French MAS ($600-1,200).

    My favorite and most accurate bolt rifle is a Finnish M/28-30.

    Best value right now Enfield No4 ($300-500).

    Most accurate rifle Finnish M/28-76 ($1,000-1,500).

    Prices based on model, condition, and degree of matching for average range.

    Americans used Cosmoline. Russians used Commie Grease.

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    Last edited by capt14k; 06-26-2017, 2:01 PM.

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    • #3
      AlienHobo
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 695

      capt14k has a good list to start, from there you should become more focused.

      Just to make sure, did you apply for your Certificate of Eligibility (CoE)? You are going to need that in California. If you purchase a C&R (longarm or handgun) outside of CA, then you don't need it. Just fill out the paperwork within 5 days when you return to CA.

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      • #4
        Milsurp Collector
        Calguns Addict
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2009
        • 5884

        The USGI M1 Carbine is one of the most fun to shoot guns there is. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1023098

        C&R includes non-military arms that are at least 50 years old, like this classic Winchester 94 from 1946, so don't overlook them



        C&R handguns are exempt from the California handgun roster.

        Several types of .22 rifles were used for military training and are C&R. They would be great for Appleseed.



        USGI arms have the advantage of wide ammo availability. Besides the M1 (Garand) Rifle already mentioned a M1903A3 made by Remington or Smith Corona is a good choice, has a nice aperture sight like the M1 Rifle and M1 Carbine, and shoots any type of .30-06 ammo.



        For pure quality, fine craftsmanship, and accuracy it is hard to beat the Swiss K31.
        Revolvers are not pistols

        pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
        Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

        ExitCalifornia.org

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        • #5
          musketjon
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 1746

          Hey Milsurp,
          How come the bolt on the bottom A3 is cocked?
          Jon

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          • #6
            hardlyworking
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1210

            Originally posted by AlienHobo
            capt14k has a good list to start, from there you should become more focused.

            Just to make sure, did you apply for your Certificate of Eligibility (CoE)? You are going to need that in California. If you purchase a C&R (longarm or handgun) outside of CA, then you don't need it. Just fill out the paperwork within 5 days when you return to CA.
            My Livescan apt is on 7/3 so yes my CoE process is going to be submitted as well

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            • #7
              hardlyworking
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1210

              Thank you capt14 and Milsurp Collector! Great replies and just what I was looking for

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              • #8
                Bobby Ricigliano
                Mit Gott und Mauser
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2011
                • 17439

                Originally posted by hardlyworking
                My Livescan apt is on 7/3 so yes my CoE process is going to be submitted as well
                It is a fine looking museum grade document, suitable for framing. Heavy parchment paper with gilded edges, elaborate scrollwork, and fine embossed raised text. Worth every penny of that Livescan fee.

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                • #9
                  AlienHobo
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 695

                  Originally posted by hardlyworking
                  My Livescan apt is on 7/3 so yes my CoE process is going to be submitted as well

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                  • #10
                    SamGoldstein
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1011

                    Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                    It is a fine looking museum grade document, suitable for framing. Heavy parchment paper with gilded edges, elaborate scrollwork, and fine embossed raised text. Worth every penny of that Livescan fee.
                    Are we talking about the same document? Mine was cheaply printed on lightweight paper. The number was the most important part, and that actually did not print clearly. Kommiefornia.

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                    • #11
                      jd428jd
                      Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 347

                      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                      It is a fine looking museum grade document, suitable for framing. Heavy parchment paper with gilded edges, elaborate scrollwork, and fine embossed raised text. Worth every penny of that Livescan fee.


                      Haha, it's suitable for something for sure.


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