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  • Travis8128
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1445

    question.

    tell me exactly how to pull of a legal cash and carry.

    i just want to make sure im not missing anything.

    sorry for all the questions in this sub forum lately by the way.
  • #2
    Prowler
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 2099

    nice try...
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    • #3
      Travis8128
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1445

      at what.

      please no thread crapping.

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      • #4
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        Originally posted by Prowler
        nice try...
        what do you mean?

        CA law allows for paperless transfers of long guns that are 50+ years old if you buy from a private party.

        12078(t)(2) Subdivision (d) and paragraph (1) of subdivision (f) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm that is not a handgun, which is a curio or relic manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, or its successor
        .
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • #5
          Travis8128
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1445

          Originally posted by ke6guj
          what do you mean?

          CA law allows for paperless transfers of long guns that are 50+ years old.


          .
          thank you.

          and i know this is legal but is there anything i should be aware of if i choose to do a cash and carry with an older gun?

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          • #6
            AlexBreya
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 953

            i actuallt have question too, if you can do paperless transfers, then whats the point of a C&R license? (dumb question, i know)

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            • #7
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              Originally posted by AlexBreya
              i actuallt have question too, if you can do paperless transfers, then whats the point of a C&R license? (dumb question, i know)
              Well, you can only do cash-and-carry a 50+ year old long gun from a private party.

              With a C&R you can also mail order that 50+ year old long gun and have it shipped to your door. You can also physically go out-of-state and purchase any CA-legal C&R firearm and bring it back (must register C&R handgun within 5-10 days).

              And if you add a COE to your C&R FFL, you can also cash-and-carry any C&R firearm from a dealer while in CA. You do have to do the DROS paperwork, but no wait. And you are also exempt from the 1-in-30 day restriction on all handgun purchases, C&R and modern.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                Travis8128
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 1445

                Originally posted by ke6guj
                Well, you can only do cash-and-carry a 50+ year old long gun from a private party.

                With a C&R you can also mail order that 50+ year old long gun and have it shipped to your door. You can also physically go out-of-state and purchase any CA-legal C&R firearm and bring it back (must register C&R handgun within 5-10 days).

                And if you add a COE to your C&R FFL, you can also cash-and-carry any C&R firearm from a dealer while in CA. You do have to do the DROS paperwork, but no wait. And you are also exempt from the 1-in-30 day restriction on all handgun purchases, C&R and modern.
                so since i dont have one i cant have it shipped to my door?

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                • #9
                  ke6guj
                  Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by Travis8128
                  so since i dont have one i cant have it shipped to my door?
                  not from out-of-state. It is technically legal to have a non-licensed individual ship a stranger a 50+ year old long gun. But you may be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to do so.
                  Jack



                  Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                  No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                  • #10
                    Travis8128
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1445

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    not from out-of-state. It is technically legal to have a non-licensed individual ship a stranger a 50+ year old long gun. But you may be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to do so.
                    already found someone willing to do so.

                    in state.

                    so its legal right?

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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
                      Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      it doesn't appear to violate any state or federal law. Now, you may have problems with getting it shipped since many of the shippers require a non-licensee to only ship to an FFL, and do not allow for non-licensees to ship to onther non-licensees.
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        Travis8128
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1445

                        Originally posted by ke6guj
                        it doesn't appear to violate any state or federal law. Now, you may have problems with getting it shipped since many of the shippers require a non-licensee to only ship to an FFL, and do not allow for non-licensees to ship to onther non-licensees.
                        hmm that would suck.

                        the guy selling it is also doing research on the shipping so we will figure it out.

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                        • #13
                          rocketrod
                          Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 143

                          I thought cash-and-carry was only good for 100+year old firearms?

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
                            Moderator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            12078(t)(2) Subdivision (d) and paragraph (1) of subdivision (f) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm that is not a handgun, which is a curio or relic manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, or its successor
                            The refered to parts of 12072 are the ones that normally require you to do a PPT at a dealer, and wait the ten days.
                            Jack



                            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              Saigon1965
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 17278

                              That's consider antique - You can have those rifles ship straight to your door -

                              Originally posted by rocketrod
                              I thought cash-and-carry was only good for 100+year old firearms?

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