Calling all K98 experts--Need help identifying this Mauser

[risingsun212]

Came across a K98K online. Even though there are no peening or crosses, and the parts are all matching, the stock doesn't look right to me (shellac'd?). Probably an RC?

http://oldguns.net/pix/smof6710.jpg

thanks
Risingsun

[SkyHawk]

Russian capture is all mix-master and electro pencil. I don't think that is RC, way too many matching parts.

[louie]

Looks to be renumbered if you ask me. The other one the DOT looks better.

[emcon5]

The stock makes me suspicious, looks like Russian Stamped serial number was ground off the left side of the butt.

[Varg Vikernes]

There are fakes out there too. But I'm not much of an expert at all. Mausers are like a huge pit of fakes and too expensive stuff for me to get into. You need to really know your stuff to not get burned.

[smeg]

Fake numbers everywhere, fake stock proof, reblued everything, prob RC stock.
a disaster.

[smeg]

the dot 44 'a' block is bad too. not original stock. stock is probably a postwar czech stock. front band definately not original.

and that's even without pictures of the bolt which I bet is not matching either.

only part that could possible be correct is the trigger guard. but with this mess, who cares?
stay away from both.

http://oldguns.net/pix/smof6770.jpg

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Even as an owner of several K98's I am hesitant to authenticate or dismiss some of the stuff out there. There were repro proofs floating around recently that could only exist for the purpose of faking up K98's. I do concur with most of the comments above regardihg renumbering and likely sanding or recartouching of stocks.

I would buy either rifle if they were cheap and use them as shooters though. Mixmasters, captures, and reworks are much more common than legit matching bringbacks. I have rebuilt K98's from entirely spare parts and a barreled receiver and ended up with good shooters. No one should ever misrepresent or apply fake markings to anything unless it is clearly sold as such.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Looks to be renumbered if you ask me. The other one the DOT looks better.

Agreed ^^

I really don't like the numbers on the front band. It looks like there's a 9 under the 0.

[joefrank64k]

That thing is about as humped-up as they come. Just look at the left side of the butt stock...the renumbered barrel band...yikes.

[SVT-40]

Fake numbers everywhere, fake stock proof, reblued everything, prob RC stock.
a disaster.

This.

[Discogodfather]

It seems like a complete scrub, the stock is heavily messed with. Much of the metal looks to be fishy.

I'd go to k98k.com for a complete rundown, but it's one of those gun show queens that some fool has a $3000 price tag on waiting for a sucker. Not a deaths head level scrub but designed to fool the casual buyer.

[risingsun212]

Thanks for all your comments. Has anyone bought from that website? Had my doubts when I first saw the all-matching fake numbers and shellac'd stock. I think the red background is to make the shellac less conspicuous--pretty sneaky!