Is IraqVeteran correct about Mosin bullets ?

[OneFunGuy]

Hi, y'all,

In a couple of the IraqVeteran8888 videos on YouTube, he claims that
the 180 grain bullet is the best weight for the Mosin. He goes on to
say that this is the ideal weight from testing and is the most accurate
for this platform ... blah, blah, blah and so on.

Today, I got in some ammo from SGAmmo. I had added in some
PPU 150 grain, SP BT cartridges to the buy. I did this because I had read
that the lighter bullet produced a lighter recoil.

I ordered this weight bullet, because the Mosin kick is a little too brute
for me. This recoil makes me not want to shoot this beast.

Would like to hear your thoughts on this regarding accuracy vs recoil.

Tommy

[81turbota]

Hi, y'all,

In a couple of the IraqVeteran8888 videos on YouTube, he claims that
the 180 grain bullet is the best weight for the Mosin. He goes on to
say that this is the ideal weight from testing and is the most accurate
for this platform ... blah, blah, blah and so on.

Today, I got in some ammo from SGAmmo. I had added in some
PPU 150 grain, SP BT cartridges to the buy. I did this because I had read
that the lighter bullet produced a lighter recoil.

I ordered this weight bullet, because the Mosin kick is a little too brute
for me. This recoil makes me not want to shoot this beast.

Would like to hear your thoughts on this regarding accuracy vs recoil.

Tommy

You have to see what your particular rifles like. In my experience, Finns generally like the heavier bullets.

My 91/30 PU sniper loves heavy ball, whereas my PEM sniper prefers light.

[kevins750]

I have better groups @ 100 yds with 150gr over my 174gr reloads. The heavier bullet may group better at longer distances though, haven't stretched them out yet.

[OneFunGuy]

Yes, I understand searching for what the rifle likes.
I have lots of .22's they are all unique in that respect.

Question was more posed more towards bullet weigh / recoil / accuracy.

Tommy

PS If you search me, I posted pics of this gun before.
It is a Remington "Sportster". BuyBack refurb thing.

[CGZ]

I think it might have to do with the bullet length. Milsurp ~150 gr ammo has a projectile that is about the same length as commercial ~175 gr projectiles. I think this is because of the steel core, steel being less dense than lead -> more material for same weight. Just a thought, I've reloaded using commercial .311 150 gr bullets and found them to be noticablly 'shorter' than ones I've pulled from military 150 gr ammo.

[OneFunGuy]

Yeah, when I got this gun, I bought a "Tune Tin" of 440 rounds.
Yaknow that $98.00 special in the day. Not sure how to get rid of
that stuff now. Only 2 weeks ago got an opener on eBay for it.
Nobody wants that caustic ammo anymore.

So, I really don''t know how the original military ammo compares to
the current offerings, like from PPU.

Tommy

[aspire727]

Nobody wants that caustic ammo anymore.

You would be surprised. Lots of people still shoot corrosive surplus, myself included.

[kcheung2]

Easiest way to get rid of it is through the barrel!

[81turbota]

Yeah, when I got this gun, I bought a "Tune Tin" of 440 rounds.
Yaknow that $98.00 special in the day. Not sure how to get rid of
that stuff now. Only 2 weeks ago got an opener on eBay for it.
Nobody wants that caustic ammo anymore.

So, I really don''t know how the original military ammo compares to
the current offerings, like from PPU.

Tommy

Spam can ammo is excellent blasting ammo. It's reliable, stout, consistent (not the best accuracy compared to higher end loads) and is worth a decent amount more than the $98 you paid for it not too long ago. I've shot thousands of rounds of that ammo. Just run some water down the barrel followed by an oiled patch/bore snake before you leave the range and clean it properly when you get home.

[Dark Hunt]

In a rifle, usually a lighter bullet load will recoil less

[Bobby Ricigliano]

In before the lecture about the OP's excess recoil being caused by holding the rifle IMPROPERLY.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Depends on the rifle.

[6mmintl]

I've handloaded the PPU 150 softpoints but accuracy was horrendous even with bullets seated out in my finn M39 (1968)

I've also tried the Speer and Hornady 150 FBSP bullets with much better accuracy 1.7 MOA avg. Out to 500

Best accuracy was Sierra 174 HPBT out to 900 1MOA.

RECOIL? it's a relative thing to bullet weight so hang on tighter.

[Josh Smith]

Hello,

The Mosin's rifling twist was originally for a 212 grain bullet traveling at 2100fps. This ammo had an accuracy spec of 1.5moa.

Around 1908, Russia switched to light, pointed bullets in response to France and Germany adopting the same.

The rifling was not changed because it still held 4moa, which was considered adequate.

Simple answer: 174 to 220 grains is the optimal bullet weight range for the Mosin-Nagant.

Regards,

Josh

[WMG]

I have some mosins who really like the 203gr barnaul load ..... lots of luck finding it any more.
One of them hates that load but puts 5 rds of Bulgy 147ish grainer surplus in a group smaller than a small fist at 100yds.