K11 tall front sight

[smle-man]

The K11 is sighted for a minimum range setting of 300 meters. It shoots pretty high at the usual 100 yard range available at shooting clubs in SoCal. Pete Ogden sells a very nice tall blade front sight for the K11 that you can file if needed to give you a 100 yard bullseye when the rear sight is set to 300 meters. I just received one today for one of my K11s, it is nicely done.

You can contact him at: czechmauseritis@comcast.net

[1bulletBarney]

I am interested in this. What was the cost of this sight blade? Holding low is a challenge on the 100 yard line with my K11...

[smle-man]

$25 with shipping

[1bulletBarney]

I'll have to send him a e-mail. Thanks...

[81turbota]

Thanks for the feedback. I have a K11 and 1911 that don't see much range time for that exact reason. I sent him an email.

[Latigo]

We gauged the height for 100 yards. The k11 and the k31 are identical. The 1911 is a different profile.

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[Bainter1212]

We gauged the height for 100 yards. The k11 and the k31 are identical. The 1911 is a different profile.

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So I may be a little dense but.....I can use one of these on my K31? It shoots a bit high.....

[Latigo]

Yes.

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[smle-man]

We gauged the height for 100 yards. The k11 and the k31 are identical. The 1911 is a different profile.

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No wonder the quality is so high! Nice work.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I am always amazed at the overly optimistic sight settings on most milsurps. I know the rifles are capable of doing their part, but it is really expecting a lot from the rifleman. Hits at that range, especially unsupported or standing, would seem to be nearly impossible.

[Bainter1212]

I am always amazed at the overly optimistic sight settings on most milsurps. I know the rifles are capable of doing their part, but it is really expecting a lot from the rifleman. Hits at that range, especially unsupported or standing, would seem to be nearly impossible.

It was an old carryover from when men stood in a line and fired unaimed volleys at another line of men standing in front of them.
Officers in infantry training were taught tactics based off of outdated ideas for WAY longer than those ideas were actually relevant for.

[smle-man]

I am always amazed at the overly optimistic sight settings on most milsurps. I know the rifles are capable of doing their part, but it is really expecting a lot from the rifleman. Hits at that range, especially unsupported or standing, would seem to be nearly impossible.

Bobby,

The long range settings were used to create a beaten zone to suppress enemy movement. A platoon or even company would fire as a group to disrupt enemy formations behind terrain features. This role was taken over by tripod mounted medium machine guns with fire missions over an area. Later medium mortars did the same thing even more efficiently.

The Boer war showed that accurate long range shooting was feasible and frequently occurred by the Boers who did efficient work with their 7mm Mausers and captured Long Lee Enfields. The military of many nations thought that experience was the future of warfare, but the next major conflict involved distances of 100 yards or less as has each succeeding war up to Afghanistan with its long range rifle duels. Hopefully we won't mistake that situation as the future of infantry war as the world did after the Boer war.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Thanks gents. Even as I was posting that I was thinking of suppressing fire and concentrated volleys toward the general area of the enemy. The evolution of revolutionary war tactics.

I was personally amazed in Army Basic Training that with good fundamentals it wasn't that hard to score hits at 300m by basically covering the silhouette with the front sight post. But then again this was in a training environment and we weren't getting shot at.

[smle-man]

the Boer riflemen were able to get multiple killing shots with iron sights on Brit field artillery crews up to 1,000 yards shooting from mountain ridges down to the plains below. The riflemen cleared the field gun crews with only their Mausers and killed anyone who tried to move forward to service the guns.

The Boers had the advantage of height, concealment, and a lifetime of hunting where a miss meant going hungry.

The dry air of South Africa gives amazing clarity when the wind is still. It is said that these conditions uniquely aided the long range shooting in the war.
I've been to a few of the areas where the conflict took place. Reminded me a lot of what SoCal was like before the mass of people and smog took over.

There are some amazing stories of long range rifle shots from that war. Anyone who fancies himself a crack shot with iron sights needs to read what long range combat rifle shooting was like at the turn of the previous century.

[Latigo]

No wonder the quality is so high! Nice work.

Thank you, sir.

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