Spanish FR-8

[Xerxes]

The FR8 is like that average looking chick that got that huge boob job to get penetrated more often.

That faux gas system like assault rifles is way cool but it is like the silocone boobs. Looks nice but is not real.

As a straight surplused bolt action rifle if bought for less than $200 then fine. If at former pre Obama price of $350+ probably not. Not even sure with the anti-gun-OBamaism price what these are selling for now but it is probably double or triple what I would pay for one.

[cactus]

Ive said it before, I bought mine for the cool factor. Then I shot it and found what a handy little carbine it is. From what ive read the FR-8 is fine with 308 its the FR-7 that has the problems with it. Its my favorite carbine to shoot rite now and I like the rear sights. Id say get it if you get the chance its a fun gun.

[Crusader]

FR8 mausers have what appears to be a built in grenade launcher,I wonder if that is legal in California?? Perhaps changing the muzzle device to a Recoil brake would make it legal?

The rifle is already legal. I can't remember specifically, but the bottom tube is for storing the cleaning kit, or maybe the bayonet. It has no grenade launcher.

[Quiet]

The FR8 is like that average looking chick that got that huge boob job to get penetrated more often.

That faux gas system like assault rifles is way cool but it is like the silocone boobs. Looks nice but is not real.

Guess that must be the reason why I want one.

[BamBam-31]

There's one on consignment at Bain & Davis in San Gabriel. A real cherry, too. Absolute mirror bore.

[TRICKSTER]

The flash hider doubles as a grenade launcher. Anyone know for sure if DOJ considers it to be one? To be realistic, any rifle could be used as a grenade launcher. This is something that really needs to be defined.

See photo on page 2.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/articles2008/frc_whataserve/pdf/frc_whataserve.pdf

[Quiet]

AFAIK...
The flash hider on the FR8 is not considered a grenade launcher.

[vlsgmc]

FR-8 grenade launcher?

Sorry to stir this up again. I'm looking for an FR-8 and the "grenade launcher" issue has been brought up. I know there are FR-8s in Kalifornia but does anyone have anything in writting that could be used to prove one way or the other that the FR-8 is ok for Kali?

[ElToro]

dude.
just buy one already. they are perfectly PRK legal, they have been sold through retail channels ... anybody remember when you could get em cheap at BIG 5 ?.. and PPT for years. if you can find somebody to sell it to you cash and carry since they are C&R, even better.

get one and shoot factory 308 or NATO surplus in it and dont worry about it. it you start to feel guilty after you get one and if you dont like rear sites, im SURE somebody on calguns will take it off your hands.

[Saigon1965]

Or just remove the damm flash hider - The last 2 that was in the FS went quick -

[vlsgmc]

I've done a lot of research on this. From what I found, what TRICKSTER posted above is correct. The ATF addressed this issue when it came to importing several foreign military rifles:

From a July 6, 1989 ATF memo entitled : Report and Recommendation on the Importability of Certain Semiautomatic Rifles and represent notes from a meeting held on December 10, 1968.The Firearms Evaluation Panel did briefly comment on whether a model BM59 Beretta, 7.62mm NATO Caliber Sporter Version Rifle was suitable for sporting purposes. Minutes of the Firearms Advisory Panel, December 10, 1968. Attachment 3. It was the consensus of the Panel that this rifle did have a particular use in target shooting and hunting. Accordingly, it was recommended that importation of the Beretta BM59, together with the SIG-AMT 7.62mm NATO Caliber Sporting Rifle and the Cetme 7.62mm NATO Caliber Sporting Rifle, be authorized for importation. (The Beretta RM59 and the Cetme, the predecessor to the HK91, are two of the rifles whose importation has been suspended. The SIG-AMT is no longer being produced.) However, the Panel recommended that importation of these weapons should include the restriction that they not possess combination flash suppressors/grenade launchers.

.... A model BM59 Beretta, 7.62mm, NATO Caliber Sporter Version Rifle was presented to the panel and their advice sought as to their suitability for sporting purposes. It was the consensus that these rifles do have a particular use in target shooting and hunting. Accordingly, it was recommended that importation of this rifle together with the SIG-AMT 7.62mm NATO Caliber Sporting Rifle and the Cetme 7.62mm NATO Caliber Sporting Rifle be authorized for importation. Importation, however, should include the restriction that these weapons must not possess combination flash suppressor/grenade adapters with outside diameters greater than 20mm (.22mm is the universal grenade adapter size).


And even on the Fulton Armory site:
Now that the ban has sunset, AR-15-type rifles can be assembled with any or all of the previously proscribed features. Thus, we can offer Fulton Armory FAR-15 rifles with A2 flash suppressors*, bayonet lugs, and collapsible stocks.
* The AR-15 flash suppressor also serves as a grenade launcher for 22mm NATO grenades, which is why the various muzzle devices used to comply with the law had to be larger in diameter than 22mm whilst the law was in effect.


Any CETME experts out there correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the two rings on the FR-8 barrel (which was originally for a CETME C) just before the front sight were originally used for either bayonet mounting or a sling ring like used on FALs.

So, what does this mean for Kali residents that have a flash suppressor that can also be used as a grenade launcher? Does the Kali DOJ think it is a grenade launcher?

I'm not worried to much about owning one, I'm concerned about a seller of a rifle I want telling me I can't have the gun because it has a "grenade launcher."

[KenG]

Get it, they're damn accurate with the bonus "What the hell is that?" when your at the range factor.

[vlsgmc]

Get it, they're damn accurate with the bonus "What the hell is that?" when your at the range factor.

I'm working on it. I also want an FN49 but keep missing out on some nice examples.

[Saigon1965]

There's a couple in the FS -

I'm working on it. I also want an FN49 but keep missing out on some nice examples.

[vlsgmc]

There's a couple in the FS -

A search for "fn49" shows a few posts, all of which are sold, SPF, or are old posts that have not been updated. One is almost certainly a duplicate, same seller, neither of which is closed.

Maybe I need to search for fn-49.