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  • #31
    omega
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 3111

    I really admire the old time craftsmanship & machining on these old Mausers

    it's almost like a Swiss Watch with all the parts hand fitted the old fashioned way

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    • #32
      pitfighter
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 3144

      There certainly ARE legally owned C+R M712 machine-guns in California, and dealer samples created from parts kits -
      Is there a likely-hood that the average shooter or collector on Calguns could acquire the state and federal permits required to own or manufacture one, about 10,000 to 1 on a good day.

      But, there are high end collectors, dealers, manufacturers and movie suppliers who do have the correct permits, acquired through large legal investment, political contacts (law letters) and time.

      The propagation of false information on NFA weapons in CA also makes it next to impossible to discuss this stuff anywhere.


      Justice is for everyone - just like the Ritz Carlton is.

      Last edited by pitfighter; 12-24-2016, 9:53 AM.
      Pitfighter.
      CA/AZ

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      • #33
        Bobby Ricigliano
        Mit Gott und Mauser
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2011
        • 17439

        Not too many videos out there that show the Broomhandle in action, but I found one at least:

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        • #34
          Milsurp Collector
          Calguns Addict
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
          Not too many videos out there that show the Broomhandle in action...
          Revolvers are not pistols

          pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
          Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

          ExitCalifornia.org

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          • #35
            digger2
            Member
            • May 2013
            • 268

            Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
            I found a stunning Red 9 on Gunbroker that has been relisted several times with no bids. Opening bid only $1K, which I'd pay in a heartbeat.

            Seller refuses to send it to CA. And I have asked him twice. The CFLC spooks a lot of out of state dealers, which I presume is exactly why it exists.
            do you have the link? I could not find it

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            • #36
              smle-man
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2007
              • 10602

              Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
              Lawrence carried a Broomhandle in his jaunt across Syria before the war. He returned fire on some bandits using the stock attached to his pistol and thought he did pretty well with it.

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              • #37
                Milsurp Collector
                Calguns Addict
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2009
                • 5884

                Originally posted by smle-man
                Lawrence carried a Broomhandle in his jaunt across Syria before the war. He returned fire on some bandits using the stock attached to his pistol and thought he did pretty well with it.
                A young Winston Churchill also used one.

                In the year 1898 Winston Churchill, future Prime Minister of England, was a young lieutenant in the British Army. With funds provided by his mother, he had just purchased a strange-looking new pistol from the firm of Westley Richards & Co. in Birmingham, England. Attached to the 21st Lancers in Sudan, Churchill effectively used that pistol to save his life. In the battle of Omdurman, which was one of the very last British cavalry charges, on September 2, 1898 Churchill killed or wounded at least three of his fierce spear-toting dervish opponents. The pistol he used was a Mauser C96 “Broomhandle.” Writing his mother, Churchill called the pistol “…the best thing in the world.” He later carried the same handgun as a war correspondent in the second Boer War. Today, the Mauser has one of the most recognizable profiles of any firearm ever made. It is a hot and very classic collector item.


                Revolvers are not pistols

                pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                ExitCalifornia.org

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                • #38
                  smle-man
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10602

                  Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                  Not too many videos out there that show the Broomhandle in action, but I found one at least:

                  Han shot first!



                  "Wind and the Lion"

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                  • #39
                    Milsurp Collector
                    Calguns Addict
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 5884

                    Originally posted by smle-man
                    Loved the looks of it but it seemed something broke just about every trip out.
                    I haven't shot my broomhandle myself. But about 6 months after I bought it I took three women who had little or no experience shooting to my gun club and I let them shoot it, along with several of my other old guns (after starting them out with .22's).



                    The broomhandle worked fine but after she shot it I examined the fired cases and several had pierced primers. The firing pin has a somewhat sharp tip. I replaced the firing pin spring that cushions the firing pin forward motion (and kept the original) but I haven't fired it since.
                    Revolvers are not pistols

                    pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                    Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                    ExitCalifornia.org

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                    • #40
                      pitfighter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3144

                      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                      Not too many videos out there that show the Broomhandle in action, but I found one at least:

                      Opening of Thunderbolt and lightfoot.


                      Another Clint one is Joe Kidd - m712 mag, but used in semi-auto.


                      The one we used on Savage Dog, which will be out next year, was interesting, the ejector was missing, but the spent cases still bounced out, under the pressure of the upward magazine spring, no jams with Swanson blanks, fascinating situation, defied reason, but worked fine.

                      I used an M712 in Young Indiana Jones episode 17 - Austria/Hungary, back in 1991, shot in Prague - the guns were from the Czech army arsenal at Barandov Studios - I have photographs, pre-digital of course.
                      Last edited by pitfighter; 12-24-2016, 12:48 PM.
                      Pitfighter.
                      CA/AZ

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                      • #41
                        Ugly Hombre
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 1191

                        "The Great Silence" a Italian pasta western- features the C-96.



                        It is a pretty good film- very bleak though.

                        Don't own a C-96, the one I handled surprised me, it was pretty well balanced- I always thought it would be clumsy.
                        Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 12-24-2016, 1:14 PM.

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                        • #42
                          henrybucki
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 6

                          always loved the broom handle mausers .when i was around 17 years old had a choice between a p08 and a mauser c96 picked the p08 instead for $55 at a gun shop in Atlanta, made up for my mistake years later . 9mm is the way to go if you can

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                          • #43
                            Rogerbutthead
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 3857

                            Those 20 round magazines, are you taking them out of California before this July or would you actually altered them to 10 rounds?

                            I am still pissed that there is no exception for historical over 10 round magazines.

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                            • #44
                              henrybucki
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 6

                              no i am on the other side, ga

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                              • #45
                                Rogerbutthead
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 3857

                                Forgot to say that is one beautiful collection. Glad to see it is in a free state.

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