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  • bugman
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 648

    Buying C&R rifle with changed stock, will it qualify as Cash and carry???

    Hi guys, I want to buy this C&R rifle but the owner put a plastic aftermarket stock on it. I assume I cannot use my C&R license anymore and it has to be PPT. For the legal experts, can I still do cash and carry if we remove/separate the stock. Just wondering the legal aspects...
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    bohoki
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    • Jan 2006
    • 20815

    hmm is a c&r sks without a stock a c&r?

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      bugman
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 648

      Originally posted by bohoki
      hmm is a c&r sks without a stock a c&r?
      I often see some items that are stripped barrelled receivers like Mosin Nagants in Gunbroker and they are still listed as C&R eligible. But I want to make sure so I was asking.
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        TRICKSTER
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        • Mar 2008
        • 12438

        This is from the ATF's C&R Q&A page. http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/1972-2007/faq.pdfreplacing the original firearm stock with a plastic stock would change its classification as a C&R item.


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          TRICKSTER
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          • Mar 2008
          • 12438

          Originally posted by bugman
          I often see some items that are stripped barrelled receivers like Mosin Nagants in Gunbroker and they are still listed as C&R eligible. But I want to make sure so I was asking.
          a receiver is not a C&R item. Combining this ruling and the definition of C&R firearms, the Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) has concluded that a firearm must be in its original condition to be considered a C&R weapon.


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            jmlivingston
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            • Oct 2005
            • 5095

            Originally posted by bugman
            Hi guys, I want to buy this C&R rifle but the owner put a plastic aftermarket stock on it. I assume I cannot use my C&R license anymore and it has to be PPT. For the legal experts, can I still do cash and carry if we remove/separate the stock. Just wondering the legal aspects...
            How old is it?

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            • #7
              bugman
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              • Nov 2008
              • 648

              The seller said it is 1948 rifle.
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                AJAX22
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                • May 2006
                • 14980

                importation of military C&R firearms
                that segment (and that opinion) are not refering to C&R status once it is already in the united states.

                That is for importation purpouses ONLY


                The garand statement is deliberately misleading.
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                  TRICKSTER
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 12438

                  Originally posted by AJAX22
                  that segment (and that opinion) are not refering to C&R status once it is already in the united states.

                  That is for importation purpouses ONLY


                  The garand statement is deliberately misleading.
                  Here is the entire question and response. It is what it is and it is posted by the ATF. If you want to argue with them, go ahead.



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                    jmlivingston
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 5095

                    Be careful with that, because there are multiple and specific definitions to what constitutes a C&R. The above statement could very well apply only to certain C&R firearms - such as those listed by name - yet not apply to others which meet the C&R definition purely by age.

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