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[Tripper]

Hopefully I'm in the right sub now
Can anyone ID this
All I know is it appears to be pinfire, looks like a pocket pistol as the trigger folds up to the frame/barrel, no markings that I can make out

[Tripper]

I see this marking in cylinder and frame




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[musketjon]

Looks like maybe a French or Belgian Lefauchaux pin fire?
Jon

[kouye]

Looks a lot like this Belgian Pinfire Pocket Revolver

http://www.collectorebooks.com/gregg01/eurorevolver/Lot-1149.htm

[sealocan]

The mass media calls it a Glock.

[Tripper]

The mass media calls it a Glock.

Then I'll sell it for 750, lol


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[Tripper]

help Identify

This is the best I can get for proof mark, can anyone figure it out

[Tripper]

this is certainly really close, the proof appears the same, as well as the grip shape and screw placement, i still dont see exactly 'what it is'
proof (double crown over U) appears to be in use as early as 1891, 'E.German," Suhl maybe

http://bertock.home.xs4all.nl/page22/page59/styled-32/page55.html

[pacrat]

Proofs are German for sure

http://www.shotguns.se/html/germany_1890-1945.html

[Tripper]

help Identify

That suggests this particular mark would be prior to 1912 as is it was replaced with no17

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[gun toting monkeyboy]

It has Suhl (German) proof marks. That is about all you are likely to get from it. These kinds of cheap pinfire revolvers were made all over Europe prior to the turn of the last century. Mostly in small shops, using what we would consider to be questionable materials. Since the cartridges were such low pressure, if didn't matter all that much. If there is not a company name stamped on it, you can pretty much guarantee that it was made by a no-name shop. Even if it had a name on it, it could just as easily be a counterfeit. Yours at least has the proof marks on it, which means it was tested. They didn't normally fake those, as the penalties for a shop caught selling something with fake proof marks were fairly stiff from what I have heard. If you want to shoot it, there are some companies in Europe that make loadable cartridges. You just need to figure out which caliber it is. My guess would be 7mm. Add a primer and some black powder type propellant, and you are set. I know the 7mm will punch through 1/2 inch of plywood, no problem. I don't know if I would shoot it a lot, as these things were fairly fragile, even when new. But they can be amusing to play with.

-Mb

[Tripper]

Thanks monkey, no I didn't want to shoot it, I wanted to see about getting parts for it to make it complete, just for novelty, it's not heirloom or anything like that


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