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  • 2meterB
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1728

    Could use some refinishing help.

    I'm refinishing the nasty jaundiced boyd's stock my CMP carbine came in.

    I did citristrip daily over the course of a week, taking it off with turpentine and finishing pads.

    I also did pure turpentine.

    And denatured alcohol.

    and bronze wool.

    And once I got desperate, purple power.

    and 120 grit.

    Unfortunately this thing is nowhere near stripped. Most of the wood still has the nasty jaundicy boyds stain in it. There's only a few areas that are coming up bare.

    Is there a CA legal stripper that can pull this stuff?
    Last edited by 2meterB; 09-03-2016, 2:01 PM.
  • #2
    peppermintman
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1943

    I tried all that stuff too. Steaming did help. After all that I ended up using Realmilk dark tung oil and that took care of it.
    Found a nice rifle stock on eBay and sold the Boyds.

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    • #3
      ccandgc
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 2142

      Did you try that furniture refinisher stuff with the bronze wool? Don't know if t will work, you could sell it and buy GI.
      -Chad

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      • #4
        ColdDeadHands1
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 3391

        Read this!



        "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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        • #5
          2meterB
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 1728

          Going with GI was my original plan, but this carbine turned out to be my best shooter by a wide margin, and I decided not to throw more variables in the mix by changing out the stock.


          I'll check out Kleanstrip, thanks!

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          • #6
            johnthomas
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2009
            • 7001

            The best advice I can offer is this post.
            I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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            • #7
              Milsurp Collector
              Calguns Addict
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 5884

              Originally posted by 2meterB
              I'm refinishing the nasty jaundiced boyd's stock my CMP carbine came in.

              Unfortunately this thing is nowhere near stripped. Most of the wood still has the nasty jaundicy boyds stain in it. There's only a few areas that are coming up bare.
              I don't know what you mean by jaundiced. Some pictures would help.

              I wrote a tutorial for refinishing a CMP Boyd's Garand stock, but it is birch http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/vie...p?f=53&t=78117
              I assume your stock is walnut, but again without pictures...

              Since it is a new commercial stock you can sand off the finish if none of the strippers you can use get the job done.
              Revolvers are not pistols

              pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
              Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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              • #8
                MasterChief
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 653

                Oxalic acid wood bleach will help



                Oxalic acid will remove much surface discoloration in the wood and also remove or greatly diminish iron staining sometimes found around the metal fittings. One or two applications usually does the deed. The bleached wood surfaces are easily re-colored with dyes and/or stains, finished with BLO or TO and the appearance of the wood grain or figuring is enhanced, sometimes dramatically. Don't sand.





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                • #9
                  Flyin Brian
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3395

                  Originally posted by MasterChief
                  It's also what i use to kill varroa mites in my beehives!

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                  • #10
                    2meterB
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1728

                    Turns out it needed a LOT of sanding. A lot.

                    On the right side handguard is Contour better, and The Recoil lug area

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                    • #11
                      2meterB
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1728

                      Before. Very drab, stock had a yellowish/greenish tint to it in sunlight that I hated.



                      You can also see in this photo how the stock has an overhang over the recoil lug. It's flush now.


                      One coat of linseed oil, still wet:


                      I missed a few spots of finish in the wrist area.


                      Only downside is that the handguard is a lighter piece of wood. the Boyd's stain hid that fact.
                      Last edited by 2meterB; 09-04-2016, 9:07 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Milsurp Collector
                        Calguns Addict
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 5884

                        Originally posted by 2meterB

                        One coat of linseed oil, still wet:
                        Is that boiled linseed oil (BLO) or raw linseed oil (RLO)? Raw linseed oil - sold as flaxseed oil - produces faster and deeper darkening and reddening than BLO.

                        Applied raw linseed oil and it looked like this:



                        Several weeks later it looked like this just from oxidation of the raw linseed oil:



                        Another approach is to use stain. There is a guy on the CMP forum who sells a stain he calls US Service Rifle (USSR) stain that I have not used but that his customers seem to like http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=27670

                        This is the USSR stain used by one of his customers on a Boyd's CMP walnut stock:

                        Revolvers are not pistols

                        pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                        Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                        ExitCalifornia.org

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                        • #13
                          sofbak
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2628

                          ^^^ The raw linseed/flaxseed oil is the way to go if you want that deep reddish brown milsurp finish.

                          If you can't wait a few weeks for it to oxidize and darken, Fiebing's Dark Brown Professional Oil Dye for leather will get you there immediately. After 24 hours of drying, rub in a top coat of BLO or tung oil.
                          Tire kickers gonna kick,
                          Nose pickers gonna pick
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                          • #14
                            2meterB
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1728

                            Blo. I have some stain that was recommended going on today

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                            • #15
                              sofbak
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2628

                              Putting stain over linseed oil isn't going to work well at all.

                              If you have already applied BLO, your best alternative now is to get a bottle of flaxseed oil from Wal-Mart or the local health food store and rub in a couple of coats of that over the BLO.
                              Tire kickers gonna kick,
                              Nose pickers gonna pick
                              I and others know the real

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