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  • marksmandowntown
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1403

    Confirm my Krag is an antique

    I believe that this rifle is an antique and can be sold FTF or shipped mail order without papers.











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    dvs762
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1790

    well to be sent with no papers I believe it has to be pre 1898 and the model number doesnt exactly say when it was built...You would have to check the serial numbers to see actual production date for that serial number. Like a 1903 Springfield doesnt mean made in 1903.Its also been sportorized andIm not sure if C&R would apply since its been altered..but it still may be..
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      musketjon
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 1746

      It's my understanding that to be c&r eligible it has to be in '' as manufactured'' configuration. Same reason a c&r can't be used for a barreled action. It's not ''as manufactured'' or issued.
      Jon

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        Cokebottle
        Señor Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Antique status and C&R are two different things.

        As an antique, it is no longer considered a firearm by BATFE.
        While sporterizing impacts C&R status because it changes the "collectible" status, it would not change the fact that the receiver (may have been) made before 1898.
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          phungn
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 501

          wouldn't be able to tell you without the serial number. Is that a model 1898 or 1896? A little hard to tell from the picture. Did you blur it out or did it get removed?

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            Cokebottle
            Señor Member
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            • Oct 2009
            • 32373

            Originally posted by phungn
            wouldn't be able to tell you without the serial number. Is that a model 1898 or 1896? A little hard to tell from the picture. Did you blur it out or did it get removed?
            The model does not indicate the date of manufacture.

            The 1911 is still being manufactured 115 years later.
            The Springfield 1903 was manufactured from to 1949

            Ya, the serial number will tell the story
            - Rich

            Originally posted by dantodd
            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              Mssr. Eleganté
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              • Oct 2005
              • 10401

              Originally posted by Cokebottle
              The model does not indicate the date of manufacture.

              The 1911 is still being manufactured 115 years later.
              The Springfield 1903 was manufactured from to 1949

              Ya, the serial number will tell the story
              How many Model 1896 Krags were manufactured after the introduction of the Model 1898 Krag?
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                phungn
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 501

                Originally posted by Cokebottle
                The model does not indicate the date of manufacture.

                The 1911 is still being manufactured 115 years later.
                The Springfield 1903 was manufactured from to 1949

                Ya, the serial number will tell the story
                In this case we need it to be pre 1899. I doubt very many 1896 models were made after 1898 models were introduced.

                Even with your 1903 example, you can get a rough date based on a model. If you're looking for a pre WW2 rifle, that automatically rules out the A3 and Remington made rifles.

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                  Cokebottle
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                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  How many Model 1896 Krags were manufactured after the introduction of the Model 1898 Krag?
                  Apparently some 26,000 were produced in 1898 or later going by the total production for the 1896 and subtracting those produced in 1896 and 1897.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #11
                    2761377
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 2064

                    since the Antique cut-off date is 31 Dec 1898 we can rest assured all M1896 Krags are antique
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                    • #12
                      highpower
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2012
                      • 5294

                      Originally posted by 2761377
                      since the Antique cut-off date is 31 Dec 1898 we can rest assured all M1896 Krags are antique
                      ^^^^This

                      Since the next version of the Krag rifle was the 1898, '96 dated rifles are, by definition, antiques.
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                      • #13
                        God Bless America
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2014
                        • 5163

                        But it's not dated, is it? They were produced after '98 too.

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                        • #14
                          God Bless America
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                          • May 2014
                          • 5163

                          Originally posted by musketjon
                          It's my understanding that to be c&r eligible it has to be in '' as manufactured'' configuration. Same reason a c&r can't be used for a barreled action. It's not ''as manufactured'' or issued.
                          Jon
                          Yes but, if it was sporterized more than 50 years ago, then it is C&R eligible just as a pre-64 model 70 is. Yes there is a proof issue, but that goes both ways.

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                          • #15
                            Armistice
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 2668

                            We know how you spell "assume"

                            Just check the SN and be 100% sure
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