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  • Swiss
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 830

    M1Garand trigger group drops out

    I have a brand new M1 and fired it for the first time this weekend. By new I mean the stock is new and freshly stained, and all metal parts appear to be new and freshly parkerized. The Springfield barrel was made in 2008.

    The problem is that the trigger group drops out after 1 or 2 clips are fired. During firing I periodically have to press the trigger guard back into place to prevent it from occurring. There is a fair amount of resistance when doing so (say the last 3/4" of travel), so the lugs appear to be working but it doesn't stay in place.

    Any thoughts on what could be causing this? Does the tab on the end of the trigger guard drop neatly into the slot in the trigger housing when the guard is swung into place, or does the guard have to be stretched like a spring to make the tab fit? (Hope that made sense)

    Thanks
    Being pro-gun rights in the Bay Area is like being a vegan at an Outback Steakhouse. You know you're right but nobody gives a damn.
  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    Sounds to me like the trigger guard has been stretched.Ever so slightly bend it inward.
    I had to do this to one of mine recently.
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      God Bless America
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2014
      • 5165

      Originally posted by Swiss
      Does the tab on the end of the trigger guard drop neatly into the slot in the trigger housing when the guard is swung into place, or does the guard have to be stretched like a spring to make the tab fit? (Hope that made sense)

      Thanks
      Makes sense and it should not align with slot. Bend trigger bow to get that tab back in.

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      • #4
        arnie19
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 367

        You may need to shim that trigger group so it locks up tighter .The tighter the better .

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        • #5
          Mustang
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2007
          • 5073

          Is it a milled or stamped trigger guard?
          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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          • #6
            Swiss
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 830

            Stamped.

            Thanks all for the feedback.
            Being pro-gun rights in the Bay Area is like being a vegan at an Outback Steakhouse. You know you're right but nobody gives a damn.

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            • #7
              M1NM
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2011
              • 7966

              Originally posted by arnie19
              You may need to shim that trigger group so it locks up tighter .The tighter the better .
              Sounds like there is no need for shims since he's got 3/4" for tension. Bend the trigger guard no more than 1/8". There is probably some diagram with measurements on the CMP Forum.

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              • #8
                musketjon
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1746

                Make sure the tab on the guard isn't bottoming out in the stock. If it is, you'll need to remove a SMALL amount of wood so it won't bottom out.
                Jon

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                • #9
                  Grendl
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1657

                  Originally posted by musketjon
                  Make sure the tab on the guard isn't bottoming out in the stock. If it is, you'll need to remove a SMALL amount of wood so it won't bottom out.
                  Jon
                  Since it's a new stock, start here.
                  YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

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                  Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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                  • #10
                    Swiss
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 830

                    Originally posted by musketjon
                    Make sure the tab on the guard isn't bottoming out in the stock. If it is, you'll need to remove a SMALL amount of wood so it won't bottom out.
                    Jon
                    I confirmed that at the range and even carved out a tiny bit with a knife just to make sure. That wasn't the problem but it certainly sounds like bending the trigger guard will solve things. If anyone has a link to a diagram that shows exactly how far that tab should be from the slot before it's stretched, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise I'll do it by feel, a little at a time.

                    Thanks again to all for your comments.
                    Being pro-gun rights in the Bay Area is like being a vegan at an Outback Steakhouse. You know you're right but nobody gives a damn.

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                    • #11
                      jeremyro
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1294

                      Originally posted by Swiss
                      I confirmed that at the range and even carved out a tiny bit with a knife just to make sure. That wasn't the problem but it certainly sounds like bending the trigger guard will solve things. If anyone has a link to a diagram that shows exactly how far that tab should be from the slot before it's stretched, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise I'll do it by feel, a little at a time.

                      Thanks again to all for your comments.
                      I will say this about it, on one of my CMP special garands I had to hit it with a mallet to close it the first few times, it should not be loose at all. My other one didn't need a mallet, but I would never call it easy to close.

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                      • #12
                        sofbak
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2628

                        Sounds like poor or incorrect fitment between trigger group and stock.

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                        And Mr. Findley's advice here

                        Tire kickers gonna kick,
                        Nose pickers gonna pick
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