Does C&R+COE still exempt C&R handgun from 10 day wait?

[littlejake]

Does C&R+COE still exempt C&R handgun from 10 day wait?

[onelonehorseman]

Yes, but it must be transferred through FFL01

[littlejake]

Absolutely.

[six seven tango]

IIRC, there's a "glitch" in the DES that won't allow for the exemption on a PPT. One work around is to have the FFL process it as a dealer transfer, but then you're also subject to his fees since it would no longer be considered a PPT.

[Eljay]

Make sure your FFL has done this before. They have to make just the right selections while DROSing or it won't work.

[littlejake]

Old LGS under new management. Told me C&R handguns could not be exempted from 10 day wait. If there's a glitch in the software -- I'd wager it's intentional.

Saturday, I tried to pickup an 03A3 from this LGS. It was an FFL to FFL transfer. It was there first C&R transfer; and they were stumped when the DROS software said pending. So, I went to FSC and 10 day wait.

They were one step from doing it right; but stymied by the word PENDING.
I have now been told by a nor cal Dealer that is always says pending for a C&R+COE or a LEO exemption. All they had to do was hit the release button and check the dates.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Old LGS under new management. Told me C&R handguns could not be exempted from 10 day wait.

It's not that it could not. It is that they would not. I did a LGS PPT transfer for a C&R eligible handgun less than 30 days ago and walked out with it. Whole process took 10 minutes.

[six seven tango]

It's not that it could not. It is that they would not. I did a LGS PPT transfer for a C&R eligible handgun less than 30 days ago and walked out with it. Whole process took 10 minutes.

Bobby, did they process it as a PPT, or something else? If PPT, since the exemption is not in the DES software, what did they do to get the exemption to go thru?

[Capybara]

FFL has to transfer the C&R pistol into their stock, then sell it to you. The computer program used by the FFL01 no longer allows the no wait transfer during a PPT, even though it is 100% legal. Just another way the CADOJ is screwing the law abiding gun seller and gun owners. Not every FFL01 will know this or know how to do it but my FFL has done this several times for me, both buying and selling C&R handguns.

[littlejake]

FFL has to transfer the C&R pistol into their stock, then sell it to you. The computer program used by the FFL01 no longer allows the no wait transfer during a PPT, even though it is 100% legal. Just another way the CADOJ is screwing the law abiding gun seller and gun owners. Not every FFL01 will know this or know how to do it but my FFL has done this several times for me, both buying and selling C&R handguns.

Ah, and they (the dealer) can do that because C&R HGs are roster exempt.

And, what about C&R long guns. DROS software has or does not have the waiting period exemption?

[Capybara]

Not sure on that one, I recently sold some C&R pistols and saw this. All of the C&R long guns I sold were F2F cash at a freeway offramp parking lot to FFL03 + COE holders, didn't have to use a dealer for those. Perhaps Baboosh or Burbur or other FFL01/07/02s will chime in on this? My guess is it works the same way since C&R rifles are also exempt from the 10 day to FFL03 + COE holders?

[OniKoroshi]

C&R long guns used to have an exemption built in (when DES initially rolled out) but they "updated" to no longer allow the 240 hour exemption via PPT C&R. If you want the 240 hour exemption, the FFL has to receive it and the dispose to you like a normal dealer transfer like mentioned above in post 9.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Bobby, did they process it as a PPT, or something else? If PPT, since the exemption is not in the DES software, what did they do to get the exemption to go thru?

Gosh, I don't remember. I only bought it to have in case I am ever in some occupied French basement tavern and some SS major points his Walther at my testicles.

"Say Auf Wiedersehen to your nazi balls!!"

[Capybara]

Nice P38 and P1 pair. Amazing that although the design is the same, the real P38s just look so much more serious than the P1s. I have a P1 frame with a P38 labeled slide so I guess I have a P38/P1. Unfortunately mine was made right before they made the ones with the reinforcing stake through the frame so I rarely shoot it as I am a bit paranoid of cracking the frame, the frame is really light on those P1s. Fun pistols to shoot, quite accurate.

[six seven tango]

Ah, and they (the dealer) can do that because C&R HGs are roster exempt.

And, what about C&R long guns. DROS software has or does not have the waiting period exemption?

If you have an 03/COE you're not required to do a PPT at a dealer for a C&R long gun. Face to face and mail to your doorstep are both still perfectly legal as long as you send in the proper paper work.