why no 880 thread?

[Archon_g24]

Why isn't SB 880 (I meant 857) getting any attention here? If passed, we would need to get identification marks added to our c&r firearms that were made before serialization was required which would ruin their aesthetic value and collectability.

[bigdawg86]

The answer is simple, politely decline to acquiesce to their request. Your C&Rs live happily ever after.

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[Discogodfather]

Why isn't SB 880 getting any attention here? If passed, we would need to get identification marks added to our c&r firearms that were made before serialization was required which would ruin their aesthetic value and collectability.

What firearms are you speaking of? Everything I own has a serial number. Pre 1898 is not considered a gun so also of no consequence.

[SunsetIE]

What firearms are you speaking of? Everything I own has a serial number. Pre 1898 is not considered a gun so also of no consequence.

Serials were not required pre 1968 for commercially produced guns.

Gun Control Act of 1968
The law also required that all newly manufactured firearms produced by licensed manufacturers in the United States and imported into the United States bear a serial number. Firearms manufactured prior to the Gun Control Act and firearms manufactured by non-FFLs remain exempt from the serial number requirement. Defacement or removal of the serial number (if present) is a felony offense.

[Discogodfather]

Serials were not required pre 1968 for commercially produced guns, I have an old marlin with no numbers anywhere, and Ive 100% stripped it

That's interesting, I have no commercial American guns (everything is military). So pre-1968 commercial US made guns have no ID marks at all? And SB 880 calls for them to be serialized? Does someone have that specific text?

[blockfort]

I think it's just for guns that will be considered AW's.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB880

[sonofeugene]

All mine has SN's.

[SunsetIE]

That's interesting, I have no commercial American guns (everything is military). So pre-1968 commercial US made guns have no ID marks at all? And SB 880 calls for them to be serialized? Does someone have that specific text?

Im not sure about all guns. Although I think the OP may be confused with the 80 bill that was veteod.


No text mentioning registering everything in 880, just AWs.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB880

(3) The registration shall contain a description of the firearm that identifies it uniquely, including all identification marks, the full name, address, date of birth, and thumbprint of the owner, and any other information that the department may deem appropriate

[Discogodfather]

Yeah, this is a red herring, C&R is not affected by any of the new laws in terms of sale or possession or registration that I can see.

[jmax]

There were 22 rifles and inexpensive shotguns that did not have serial numbers.

[ojisan]

...and M1 Carbines and Garands from commercial post-war makers (built from WW2 surplus parts).

Germany, when rearming prior to WW2, made lots of guns without serial numbers to hide the production quantities.
Many of these guns came home with our troops after the war, as I am sure you know.

[ojisan]

...and M1 Carbines and Garands from commercial post-war makers (built from WW2 surplus parts).

Germany, when rearming prior to WW2, made lots of guns without serial numbers to hide the production quantities.
Many of these guns came home with our troops after the war, as I am sure you know.

880 was vetoed.
Edit: Whoops!
Wrong gun ban bill number.
Arrrgh, there are so many it is hard to keep track of them.
But the one that would have required serial numbers on materials or parts that could someday become guns was vetoed.

[Archon_g24]

I meant 857 - sorry

http://nramemberscouncils.com/legs.shtml?year=2016&summary=ab857

I have an Remington targetmaster that was made in the 40s so it doesn't have an sn.