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  • bplvr
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2008
    • 3946

    C@R home search law

    I applied for my C@R a few weeks back.A friend told me that once recieved that NO warrant is need to search my home at any time ,that the front door can be kicked in and the house trashed. No 'probable cause' applies,...just 'cuz.
    True ?
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  • #2
    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725



    The ATF can schedule an audit, once a year?, but it is very rare, and you can do the audit at the ATF office instead of at your home.


    It's the same thing they say about those who get tax stamps for NFA toys.
    Jack



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    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      AJAX22
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2006
      • 14980

      Total FUD...

      The atf can audit once per year (and they typically don't) they must contact you in advance, perform the audit at your convenience, and you have the option of having the audit at their office.
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      • #4
        8200rpm
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1145

        I also heard that they can have their way with your daughter or your wife, and confiscate all your Forrest Whitaker movies.

        Worst of all, they can put you on a national registry which prohibits supermarkets from selling you beef.

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        • #5
          calidefector
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 605

          Originally posted by 8200rpm
          Worst of all, they can put you on a national registry which prohibits supermarkets from selling you beef.
          Oh man. I'm ripping up the forms when the come!
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          • #6
            ZRX61
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2135

            I hear they bite the heads off little old ladies & rape chickens.... or have I got that backwards?

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            • #7
              jcruzer619
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 486

              Originally posted by 8200rpm
              Worst of all, they can put you on a national registry which prohibits supermarkets from selling you beef.

              Originally posted by ZRX61
              I hear they bite the heads off little old ladies & rape chickens.... or have I got that backwards?
              LMAO - You guys friggin' crack me up!
              Last edited by jcruzer619; 01-13-2009, 11:29 PM.

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              • #8
                paul0660
                In Memoriam
                • Jul 2007
                • 15669

                I have heard of them showing up unannounced and requesting an inspection, and even being pushy about it, but you can schedule an appointment at their place instead.
                *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                  usmcchet9296
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                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1834

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                  • #10
                    nobs11
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1381

                    Originally posted by paul0660
                    I have heard of them showing up unannounced and requesting an inspection, and even being pushy about it, but you can schedule an appointment at their place instead.
                    This is true. I have personal experience with this. Everything was handled professionally and cordially, but it did scare my girlfriend at the time a bit when the ATF showed up and I was out of town. They didn't ask to see my non C&R guns. The agents were friendly and professional.

                    I was a renter at the time and they made me get a letter from the landlord stating that he was aware that I was a collector and had no problem with it. This wasn't a problem because my landlord was a former .mil guy and had a bunch of 1911s.

                    This was a few years ago.

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                    • #11
                      proudamerican831
                      Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 431

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                      Last edited by proudamerican831; 05-19-2009, 2:53 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Builder
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 565

                        A few months before my C&R renewal, an ATF agent calls to request an audit of my bound book. I could do it at my convienence at their office in Glendale or my location. I chose my location as they were not going to inspect my collection, simply check the paper work (everything entered correctly).
                        If we hadn't chatted, it would have been completed in under 10 min.
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                        • #13
                          gun toting monkeyboy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 6820

                          Originally posted by ZRX61
                          I hear they bite the heads off little old ladies & rape chickens.... or have I got that backwards?
                          I thought they raped the fields and pillaged the women...

                          Those ARE bad men...
                          Originally posted by aplinker
                          It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                          • #14
                            bwiese
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 27621

                            Originally posted by nobs11
                            This is true. I have personal experience with this. Everything was handled professionally and cordially, but it did scare my girlfriend at the time a bit when the ATF showed up and I was out of town. They didn't ask to see my non C&R guns. The agents were friendly and professional.
                            She should have refused entry and set up an office appointment with you.


                            I was a renter at the time and they made me get a letter from the landlord stating that he was aware that I was a collector and had no problem with it. This wasn't a problem because my landlord was a former .mil guy and had a bunch of 1911s.
                            They can't make you do this. The proper answer is "F U". Period.

                            Also, the letter you send to the CLEO is not asking for permission to be a C&R, it's mere notification that you are one. Period.

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                            San Jose, CA

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                            • #15
                              p7m8jg
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1914

                              Originally posted by 8200rpm
                              I also heard that they can have their way with your daughter or your wife, and confiscate all your Forrest Whitaker movies.

                              Worst of all, they can put you on a national registry which prohibits supermarkets from selling you beef.
                              I thought it was they'd take all your copies of "Reading Rainbow" with Lavar Burton...

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