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  • Crunch130
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 750

    Oh, the agony!

    Hey guys. I'm in Oroville, CA this week due to the unexpected passing of my father-in-law. He was 91 and a great man. Anyway, on the main drag, right next to the world HQ for RCBS reloading equipment, is a good sized sporting goods store called Huntingtons. I stopped briefly to check their old military rifles. They usually have a few, and some vintage sporting rifles. They also have a museum the size of a large living room with cases full of valuable antique firearms that are NFS, as well as African safari trophies and so forth. So the next time you're on your way for your personal pilgrimage to Sierra Nevada's brewery in Chico, you really need to stop in at Huntington's.

    This has been a paid announcement, we now return to our regularly scheduled programming. Anyway, they only had one milsurp today. Tragically, it had been sporterized. Probably sometime in the 1950's or 60's, by the general look and lack of scope mounting.

    I advise you to please get out some kleenex before you read any further. The rifle is a 1934 Banner Mauser. The external contour of the original barrel had been turned down in a lathe to an even tapered contour. Sporter front and rear sights installed. A bead front and a buckhorn rear. (What did Bubba think he had? A '92 Winchester in 44-40?) The action was not drilled or tapped. The bolt appeared to have the original bend, and was in the white. The original stock, barrel bands, and bayonet mount were gone; replaced with a walnut sporter stock. All the metal was highly polished and blued, but the original markings appeared intact. Now get your kleenex, the serial numbers on the receiver, mag/triggerguard, bolt, mag cover plate, bolt release lever, and even the action screws MATCHED! (The barrel serial numbers got machined off in recontouring.)

    I've never even seen a Banner Mauser in person (hence the value of reading!!). And to find a matching one! Sportered! The agony! The only satisfaction was pointing it out to the young guy offering me help. The price was $495, and I told him in original condition the rifle would be worth two to three times that. If one of you guys feels like a drive to Nor Cal, it's all yours. Then go sample one of the fine small batches from Sierra Nevada. You'll need it.
    "The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army"- General George Washington July 2, 1776
  • #2
    Grendl
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1657

    Brought a tear to my eye...
    YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

    TLCGunTrust@gmail.com
    Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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    • #3
      rdfact
      CGN Contributor
      • Nov 2012
      • 2663

      No pics?
      Maybe it's for the best so we don't have to see this travesty.

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      • #4
        rubbman
        Senior Member
        • May 2013
        • 652

        Huntingtons is awesome(birthplace of RCBS)! thier gun selection is usually full and their firearm museum is worth the stop alone!
        I once pondered over the debate of 9mm vs. .40, then I was introduced to .38 super and 10mm and forgot all about it.

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        • #5
          Bainter1212
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2013
          • 5936

          Sounds like a fun trip. Oroville is a.....special place. Lol.

          Saw an episode of "Wild Justice" awhile back. The DFG officer was busting up a party in a rural area near Oroville. After he found a huge bag of weed, the officer asked the kids "why do you need so much pot anyway?"
          One of the teen boys responded; "it's Oroville, bro!"

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          • #6
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            Originally posted by Crunch130

            I've never even seen a Banner Mauser in person.
            I owned one briefly and sold it for reasons I can't remember. I have not been able to find another one since.

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            • #7
              mosinnagantm9130
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2009
              • 8783

              Originally posted by Bainter1212
              Saw an episode of "Wild Justice" awhile back. The DFG officer was busting up a party in a rural area near Oroville. After he found a huge bag of weed, the officer asked the kids "why do you need so much pot anyway?"
              One of the teen boys responded; "it's Oroville, bro!"
              Yeah that about sums it up.
              Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
              My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

              Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
              Originally posted by ChopperX
              I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
              Originally posted by Jeff L
              Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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              • #8
                Crunch130
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 750

                I've been coming here for 26 years and honestly didn't know this was such a toker town. My wife's folks retired here and bought a house right after we got married. So I've spent a lot more time hanging out with my wife's parents' elderly friends than any young people.

                And no, no photos. Cell phone would not be good for closeup details.

                Regards,
                Crunch
                "The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army"- General George Washington July 2, 1776

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                • #9
                  Enfield47
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 6385

                  Such a sad travesty for that rifle. It was probably sprterized in 50s so most of its time has probably been spent as a sporter. Definitely not worth $495 though, maybe half that would be a fair price.

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                  • #10
                    Wounded Knee Floyd
                    Member
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 178

                    I worked at that store for a short time, problem was I wanted to spend my paycheck on all the great stuff that came through the door!

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                    • #11
                      smle-man
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10602

                      Originally posted by Enfield47
                      Such a sad travesty for that rifle. It was probably sprterized in 50s so most of its time has probably been spent as a sporter. Definitely not worth $495 though, maybe half that would be a fair price.
                      If you read the American Rifleman magazines from the era banner Mausers were fairly common in the Klein's and Hunter's Lodge ads as were the Mexican 1936 mausers and 33/40s all prime sporting conversions. No one cared back then as the supply seemed endless and the returned servicemembers had no desire to tote around a rifle with all the military features.

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                      • #12
                        BrokerB
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5437

                        There is also a little hole in wall shop a block or two down on same side of street.
                        Beans and Bullets

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                        • #13
                          Enfield47
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 6385

                          Originally posted by smle-man
                          If you read the American Rifleman magazines from the era banner Mausers were fairly common in the Klein's and Hunter's Lodge ads as were the Mexican 1936 mausers and 33/40s all prime sporting conversions. No one cared back then as the supply seemed endless and the returned servicemembers had no desire to tote around a rifle with all the military features.
                          I agree that back in the day when they were cheap and plentiful they would have been a great candidate to sporterize. They were well designed rifles that could be customized to the owners liking. I'm sure those rifles put a lot of meat on the table too. The sad part for us as collectors is that their history was changed and many can't be brought back to their original glory.

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                          • #14
                            smle-man
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10602

                            Originally posted by Enfield47
                            I agree that back in the day when they were cheap and plentiful they would have been a great candidate to sporterize. They were well designed rifles that could be customized to the owners liking. I'm sure those rifles put a lot of meat on the table too. The sad part for us as collectors is that their history was changed and many can't be brought back to their original glory.
                            Yes indeed. Even in the early-mid 70s mauser military rifles (except snipers) didn't have much collector appeal at least in my neck of the woods. U.S. military arms were somewhat sought after, then German, then UK, lastly Japanese.

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                            • #15
                              Crunch130
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 750

                              Originally posted by BrokerB
                              There is also a little hole in wall shop a block or two down on same side of street.
                              Berry Creek Guns. They weren't open when I stopped by. Maybe next trip.

                              Crunch
                              "The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army"- General George Washington July 2, 1776

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