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  • Double G
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 205

    303 ammo in SMLE

    I have a 42' Lithgow SMLE I am having trouble with firing ammo. When I purchased the rifle I also recieved some Pakistan ammo. It actually would hardly fire, and when it did it would "hang" fire, scary stuff. I went and bought some south African ammo and this is similar, about 50% of this stuff shoots. Do I have a problem with my rifle or is it the ammo?

    I have a couple K98 Mausers and at one time had problems with non-firing ammo. I installed a new firing pin spring and now the k98's fire almost anything, is there a similar fix for the SMLE or do I just have bad ammo?

    Thanks, Gene
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    doughboy334
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 2019

    POF is notorious for being ****ty ammo. What year is the headstamp on them?
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    Originally posted by Jpach
    Just do what M Sage and others have said to do, they know what theyr talkin about. Just dont urinate in your barrel and expect ur rifle to be ok. My buddy and I recently went shooting and he shot corrosive yugo ammo through his Mosin and figured he could just piss in the barrel and call it a day. Several days later the bolt was rusted shut but I guess the fouling wasnt TOO bad.

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    • #3
      Springfield45
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 2426

      Surplus 303 ammo has gotten scarce over the last few years. What is left is the bottom of the barrel and has many miss fires. A hang fire is definitely bad ammo and not your rifle. Try a fresh box of new manufactured ammo. Most gun shops still carry it. If it still misfires try Numrich gun parts for a new firing pin spring.

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      • #4
        freakshow10mm
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 3061

        Buy crap ammo, expect crap results.

        Prvi Priztan (sp) runs well in my SMLE as does Remy and Federal, etc.

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        • #5
          doughboy334
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 2019

          Originally posted by Springfield45
          Surplus 303 ammo has gotten scarce over the last few years. What is left is the bottom of the barrel and has many miss fires. A hang fire is definitely bad ammo and not your rifle. Try a fresh box of new manufactured ammo. Most gun shops still carry it. If it still misfires try Numrich gun parts for a new firing pin spring.
          Yea, too bad its almost not worth buying new ammo. That stuff is really expensive, like $12-$14 for a box of 20 cartridges!

          I've been thinking of reloading...
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          Originally posted by Jpach
          Just do what M Sage and others have said to do, they know what theyr talkin about. Just dont urinate in your barrel and expect ur rifle to be ok. My buddy and I recently went shooting and he shot corrosive yugo ammo through his Mosin and figured he could just piss in the barrel and call it a day. Several days later the bolt was rusted shut but I guess the fouling wasnt TOO bad.

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          • #6
            Sampachi
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 812

            Time to learn to reload and pull the bullets from the crappy cases and load them into virgin brass.

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            • #7
              Double G
              Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 205

              Originally posted by doughboy334
              POF is notorious for being ****ty ammo. What year is the headstamp on them?
              67', I'll have to look at the SA again later. And I'll try the way overpriced 303 and a new spring, I know I can afford one of those! They don't give this surplus stuff away either, guess I'll stick to my 8mm's!
              Thanks for the replies.

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              • #8
                doughboy334
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 2019

                Try some British made .303

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                Originally posted by Jpach
                Just do what M Sage and others have said to do, they know what theyr talkin about. Just dont urinate in your barrel and expect ur rifle to be ok. My buddy and I recently went shooting and he shot corrosive yugo ammo through his Mosin and figured he could just piss in the barrel and call it a day. Several days later the bolt was rusted shut but I guess the fouling wasnt TOO bad.

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                • #9
                  gun toting monkeyboy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 6820

                  That may not work, as most of the surplus .303 has Berdan primers. And those are NOT for begining reloaders. They are a PITA for most of us old hands as well, assuming that we can even get our hands on the right sized primers to begin with. The only exception to the berdan rule is the Greek HXP headstamped .303 ammo. It is mostly gone now, but those are some really good cases. Boxer primed, very strong brass... I love that stuff. Your other option is to find some of the 1990s vintage Winchester ammo in the white boxes. It still pops up from time to time. As for the ammo you have that isn't firing, pull the bullets for future reloading, dump the powder (if it's powder, not cordite) in the garden and wet it down to use as fertilizer. If the cases are filled with orange spaghetti like stuff, or what looks like little tubes of cut orange pasta, it's cordite. Great stuff to play with, but not that great for reloading. It is fun to put in the fireplace to help get the fire started. Or bang with a hammer to start it burning slowly. If the brass is berdan primed, soak it in soapy water for a few days, let it air dry, and then sell it for scrap. Then look at getting into reloadin. For around $100-150, you can start reloading several calibers. That initial investment will pay for itself in just a few trips to the range.

                  -Mb
                  Originally posted by aplinker
                  It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30241

                    Originally posted by doughboy334
                    POF is notorious for being ****ty ammo. What year is the headstamp on them?
                    I agree.

                    I wouldn't use POF ammo, even if it's free.
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                    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                    • #11
                      caldude
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1253

                      Originally posted by doughboy334
                      I have some of this British .303 in clips. It's from 1937, but has shot very well. It's not clean, with both dirt on the cases and firing residue afterwards. I'll probably pick up some more loose rounds next month.

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                      • #12
                        gtmmark
                        Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 259

                        I have a Wolf 24lb. striker spring in one of my No.4's that I use specifically for shooting only POF and have very few hangfire's.

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                        • #13
                          smle-man
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10580

                          The 1960 South African ball has a lot of hang fires just like the POF.

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                          • #14
                            hybridatsun350
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5336

                            I use Prvi in my No.4, and I feel it's well worth the money. It may be $0.50/rd, but it shoots every time, it's accurate, and the brass is reloadable. I don't shoot my Enfield that much anyway.
                            Dom

                            ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                            • #15
                              AaronHorrocks
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1944

                              You're buying the absolute worst .303 ammo available.
                              I wouldn't shoot the stuff in my rifle, or anyone's rifle.

                              The only thing that it's good for is the brass casing and the bullet. So tear down the componets and get rid of those primers and powder.
                              Originally posted by nick
                              Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                              Originally posted by M. Sage
                              I support violence against communists.

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