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  • CASEC
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 884

    Black Powder Question

    I see that with black powder rifles you can buy powder pellets that look like little black cylinders and load your black powder rifle with those instead of loose powder. Is there anything similar for black powder pistols?
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  • #2
    Milsurp Collector
    Calguns Addict
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 5884

    It's not real black powder, it's Pyrodex, but how about this http://www.cabelas.com/product/Pyrod...Box/740965.uts
    Revolvers are not pistols

    pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
    Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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    • #3
      CASEC
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 884

      Thanks. So it looks like I don't have to learn to measure powder to get a bp revolver
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      • #4
        Gemmer
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 34

        I could be wrong but I'm not aware of any reproduction black powder pistols that are designed to accept the pellets meant for the inline BP rifles.
        Measuring black powder is about as hard to learn to measure as measuring a spoon full of sugar for your coffee.
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        • #5
          Milsurp Collector
          Calguns Addict
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          Originally posted by CASEC
          Thanks. So it looks like I don't have to learn to measure powder to get a bp revolver
          Black powder is measured by volume instead of weight. It isn't hard. I use this measure when loading black powder revolver cartridges http://www.midwayusa.com/product/476...5-grains-brass

          Originally posted by Gemmer
          I could be wrong but I'm not aware of any reproduction black powder pistols that are designed to accept the pellets meant for the inline BP rifles.
          The link I posted above is for pellets designed for .44-.45 cal revolvers.

          Cap and Ball revolvers just entered the modern age. No flask or spout, no loose powder mess: loading has never been cleaner or easier. These 30 grain volume pellets are intended for use in 44 or 45 caliber cap and ball revolvers. Simply drop the pellets down the bore (ignition strip towards the bottom) seat the bullet and you're ready to shoot. 100 pellets per package.
          Available: 30-grain pellets.
          Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 05-08-2016, 10:44 AM.
          Revolvers are not pistols

          pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
          Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

          ExitCalifornia.org

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          • #6
            CASEC
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 884

            Do these fake black powder pellets smoke like black powder?
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            • #7
              plumbum
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 5394

              Just remember: Black Powder is an "explosive". Black Powder substitutes are "propellants". It's a matter of legal descriptions and chemistry.

              Both will provide the desired effect of pushing a lead ball out of the barrel.

              I have tried the pelletized substitute propellants, and they have worked fine for me; they make white smoke, just like granular Pyrodex. They are also more expensive, and less flexible.
              Originally posted by ysr_racer
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              • #8
                musketjon
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1746

                If you're too lazy or incompetent to measure black powder, you probably should avoid it all together. It ain't rocket science.
                Jon

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                • #9
                  highpower
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2012
                  • 5340

                  It really isn't all that hard to measure the powder. I got a reproduction civil war era powder flask for my 1860 Army that has the powder measure built into it. It makes it real easy to pour the charges. They also make a modern type powder flask w/measure that will do the same thing.

                  If you haven't bought a gun yet, please let me give you a bit of advise. While I know they are less expensive, try to stay away from the brass framed reproductions. Brass is soft and the frames tend to stretch after some use. Spend a little more money and get one with a steel frame, you will be better off in the long run.

                  I recently picked up a couple of second generation Colts. I haven't shot the '51 Navy as it is unfired and kind of getting to be a collectors piece (first year "F" series), but I have shot the '60 Army and it is a hoot.

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                  • #10
                    Shiloh
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 140

                    ..... unless its meant to be a brass frame such as a Spiller and Burr, Griswold and Gunnison, Leech and Rigdon, Etc.. These would be in .36cal however, not the .44 as some do make.
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                    • #11
                      highpower
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2012
                      • 5340

                      And remember that original Spiller & Burr's et al were actually bronze framed, which is harder and less malleable than brass.
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                      • #12
                        AR22
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 2174

                        What Revolver are you considering the pellets for? If I were you I would use real Black. Pyrodex is no advantage over Real stuff. Both stink to cleanup.Though the real Black is harder to find.

                        I like shooting real black Powder, if that is what was meant to be used.. If I had to use either real Black or Pyrodex, I will choose the Real stuff anytime. have been shooting real Black in my repro 1875 Remington Revolver, till I got tired of the cylinder locking up to much.

                        As others said, measuring powder is the easy part of shooting Black Powder Revolvers.

                        Use smokeless now in my 1875 Cartridge repro. (Titegroup). Though that is not really a viable option in a Percussion Revolver. My Cannons, I have to use real Black. No choice there in my opinion.
                        Last edited by AR22; 05-10-2016, 12:44 PM.

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                        • #13
                          winchester1
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 45

                          Originally posted by Gemmer
                          I could be wrong but I'm not aware of any reproduction black powder pistols that are designed to accept the pellets meant for the inline BP rifles.
                          Measuring black powder is about as hard to learn to measure as measuring a spoon full of sugar for your coffee.
                          Well, not quite but close enough. I am very frightened by CASEC's attitude about not having to learn how to measure. Longarm accuracy probably won't be offended by a 5 gr. variation but handgun chambers might not allow a bullet to seat all the way. Black powder or not, a gun is a gun and reluctance to learn the fundamentals can have dangerous results.
                          winchester1
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