sporterized ?

[jamesob]

at what point is a rifle considered sporterized? i just purchased 4 more rifles from my buddy and the eddystone is all stock exept the front portion of the stock was broke at some time and they just ground it smooth and eliminated the front band. oh and my newest members will be the eddystone, nagant 91, 1903 and a feather at22. there is another rifle i might get also, its a turkish mauser looking thing but its not a mauser. i have to research that one a little to see what it is exactly but i will most likely pick it up anyway. i just edited this and the turkish rifle is a 1888. are these desirable?

[bohoki]

to me any time a military gun is butchered
to another it is sporterized

so i guess any military surplus firearm in a condition it was not issued

so that means the yugo sks with muzzlebrake has been sporterized

[Timberland]

Harsh, but true. Some sporter models are nice, but they are a destroyed piece of history. That Enfield stock job was a common thing to do.

[becxltoo984]

Its not a CR . Becareful how you trade it off or sell it . my 2 cents

[Springfield45]

If you could get a full stock and front band for your Eddystone you could restore it to its former glory.

[jamesob]

If you could get a full stock and front band for your Eddystone you could restore it to its former glory.

thats what i was thinking. i found a front band on gb but the stock on gb is not complete, and its a bit pricey

[Full Clip]

M1917 parts: http://www.e-gunparts.com/products.a...ENFIELD%201917

[Spiggy]

at what point is a rifle considered sporterized?

Sporter[Sporterized]: When a military weapon is modified and no longer in original issued configuration for the purpose sport hunting and shooting. A good sporter will sometimes command the same if not more value than the original configuration. This can be seen in many extremely well done rifles during the turn of the century when rifles were much more prevalent.

Bubba[Bubbaed/Desicrated]: When a military weapon is modified sloppily by amateur or inconsiderate "gunsmiths" during modern times with no consideration for value (sentimental, fiscal, collective). These command less to no value. Many die-hard collectors will clump all modified weapons in this category.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I'll go with that. Sporterized is a professional job, done well. The Germans did this a lot in the early 1900s. Also, a great many 1903s and P17s were used as the basis for custom rifles here in the US when commercial actions were harder to come by and much more expensive. Bubbatized is some idiot with a hacksaw and half a clue. What you described sounds more like a field-expediant repair. They didn't try to turn it into a real sporter, but didn't return it to stock, as the gun probably still shot just fine. I would just get the parts and return it to original condition. If you want to build a sporter, just go get a new gun to tinker with, or a salvaged action that Bubba has already ruined.

-Mb

[Seesm]

I have a really nice Mauser carried back from Germany during WWII by my grandpa and it is nice craftmanship not bubbuish at all... Wish I had a original UN touched as well but this is a super great hunting rifle now...

[Spiggy]

Yep, back in the day the rifle wasn't collectible, it wasn't even a worthwhile memento for many people. But! the rifle presented itself as a useful canvas for the prevalent hobby of sport shooting and hunting. This is forgivable in my book.

This however, is NOT


Rare Type 99 Sniper, butchered and had another barrel forcefully threaded into the reciever

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Ow. I hate that kind of thing. I have about a dozen like that which I have accumulated over the years to try and rehab into something shootable. Nothing that was nearly as collectable as that one was before bubba, but interesting none the less. Those are the types of guns to try and make sporters out of. Not a gun that is relatively intact. The good news is that you can normally pick up the junk guns cheap. Especially if you buy several of them all at once. I have gotten them for as little as $35 a piece when I bought 5 or 6 of them at once. Some are shootable, some are good for parts, and some may surprise you. I got a Rplt 42 for less than $90 a couple of years back. Nobody at the shop knew what it was, and I thought it looked interesting. You never know what you will find.

-Mb

[Spiggy]

Note the gap between the barrel and receiver. I was not kidding when I said forcibly threaded.

also, 30-06 is much too long for that action.

[knucklehead0202]

careful with that 1888 rifle. if it's 8mm it might be a 318 bore and you shouldn't fire regular 8 mauser ammo through it. standard 8mm is .323 bore so you can imagine the implications of firing it through a .318 bore. nevermind those actions weren't all that strong.

[jamesob]

careful with that 1888 rifle. if it's 8mm it might be a 318 bore and you shouldn't fire regular 8 mauser ammo through it. standard 8mm is .323 bore so you can imagine the implications of firing it through a .318 bore. nevermind those actions weren't all that strong.

can you tell by the year of mfg? the 1888 was made in 1938 or 39, i know its one of those years for sure.