M3 sub with can

[MarikinaMan]

I just posted this on another thread. Just wanted to share an heirloom that isn't in country. Does it qualify as a curio?

A little background. The gun was issued to a prominent political family as support to a private militia. Post WWII, the Philippines was beset by banditry from displaced guerrillas. Wealthy landowners and political families kept private armies to keep the peace, protect their haciendas from raids and kidnappings. The main bandit group was the dreaded Hukbalahap. An acronym translated means National Force Against the Japanese Invaders. The Huks, as they were also known, believed heavily in magic and the power of amulets to ward of bullets. The owner of the gun has a display of dozens of amulets with Latin inscriptions and voodoo like material. (Actually, there were hundreds, don't judge me bro) Each amulet represents a dead bandit from whom it was taken. They were collected after raids or executions. The gun was also used extensively, as part of a large armory, in "politics" during the 50s and 60s. We were almost disarmed having opposed the dictator politically, but just almost. A significant numbers of arms were buried during martial law, and dug up years later. A lot did not survive from the rush to hide them. There was enough leftover Geeking out.

[Swampcrip]

What country?

[MarikinaMan]

Southeast Asia, the Philippines.

[musketjon]

It's an NFA firearm.
Jon

[Grendl]

For me, that's a grail gun. Got to shoot one in Vegas along with a Sten and MP40. The MP40 was like shooting a Mercedes. The Sten was like shooting a VW. And the M3 was like shooting a 50s Cadillac, slow and heavy.

[pitfighter]

Sub-sonic ammo and that lovely big heavy bolt, the M3's low ROF and you have yourself a very quiet and controllable sub-gun.

I like the pictures of MAC-V-SOG cats carrying them - for me, it is more iconic down to it's use during the cold war, than the highly respectable role it played in WW2.

[emcon5]

It's an NFA firearm.
Jon

You are suggesting the NFA is somehow relevant in the Philippines?

[ripcurlksm]

You are suggesting the NFA is somehow relevant in the Philippines?

In the first line of the OP he asks if it would qualify as a C&R

[ARDude]

To collectors, the OP's M3 is an older model with the crank charging handle. Vintage WW2. Late in the war the M3a1 was produced which did away with the handle.

[dustoff31]

I just posted this on another thread. Just wanted to share an heirloom that isn't in country. Does it qualify as a curio?

Yes it does. M3/M3A1 made by Guidelamp or Ithica prior to 1950 something are listed C&Rs. But still subject to all NFA requirements.

[pitfighter]

If you have a C+R license you have the "Curio and Relics List" book mailed to you - ATF P 5300.11

It is a fun list to look over - and contains MANY NFA firearms.

[Capybara]

Interesting post Marikina Man, thanks for sharing. I learned a lot, also from the knowledge base here.

[hermosabeach]

Giant wall of text

In two short sentences - what are you asking?

[SonofWWIIDI]

I'll take it!!!!

[Quiet]

Yes it does. M3/M3A1 made by Guidelamp or Ithica prior to 1950 something are listed C&Rs. But still subject to all NFA requirements.

One of which is the prohibition enacted by the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Banned the importation of Title 2 MG for non-Gov/Mil/LE agencies.
This included MGs made in the USA and exported to another country, but not imported back to the USA before 1968.

Which means the Guidelamp M-3A1 OSS "grease gun" located in the Philippines can not be imported to the USA, unless it is for a FFL/SOT or Gov/Mil/LE agency.