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  • DonaldBabbett
    Banned
    • Aug 2014
    • 828

    What is missing?

    What are all the components it takes to fire a muzzle-loading cannon?

    Only the following personnel and munitions are
    provided for in the classic children's book by Barbara
    and Ed Emberley:

    Private Parriage brought the carriage.
    Corporal Farrel brought the barrel.
    Sergeant Chowder brought the powder.
    Captain Bammer brought the rammer.
    Major Scott brought the shot.
    General Border gave the order.




    What was missing in the book so that
    Drummer Hoff could possibly fire it off?


    Private Parriage brought the carriage.
    Corporal Farrel brought the barrel.
    Sergeant Chowder brought the powder.
    Lieutenant Todd brought the wad.
    Captain Bammer brought the rammer.
    Major Scott brought the shot.
    Colonel Muse brought the fuse.
    Chaplain Hatch brought the match.

    General Border gave the order.
    Last edited by DonaldBabbett; 12-13-2015, 9:55 AM.
  • #2
    SVT-40
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2008
    • 12894

    What's missing, is the reason to post this in the C&R forum.....
    Poke'm with a stick!


    Originally posted by fiddletown
    What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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    • #3
      DonaldBabbett
      Banned
      • Aug 2014
      • 828

      Originally posted by SVT-40
      What's missing, is the reason to post this in the C&R forum.....

      The reason is a question about black-powder arms technology in which a muzzle-loading cannon is part of.

      This is actually a serious question.

      What actually ignites the charge in a black-powder cannon, or did historically?

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      • #4
        RudyN
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2282

        It was called a friction primer. You hooked a line up to the primer and when pulled it created sparks that ignited the primer charge which ignited the main charge and Boom!


        Sent from the Telegraph Office
        Rudy N
        NRA BENEFACTOR MEMBER
        CRPA MEMBER

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        • #5
          DonaldBabbett
          Banned
          • Aug 2014
          • 828

          Originally posted by RudyN
          It was called a friction primer. You hooked a line up to the primer and when pulled it created sparks that ignited the primer charge which ignited the main charge and Boom!


          Sent from the Telegraph Office
          Colonel Dixon Grimer brought the friction primer?
          Last edited by DonaldBabbett; 12-13-2015, 2:31 PM.

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          • #6
            aghauler
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4794

            Originally posted by RudyN
            It was called a friction primer. You hooked a line up to the primer and when pulled it created sparks that ignited the primer charge which ignited the main charge and Boom!


            Sent from the Telegraph Office
            Also loose powder in a touch hole, or fuse, a flintlock device.

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            • #7
              DonaldBabbett
              Banned
              • Aug 2014
              • 828

              Originally posted by aghauler
              Also loose powder in a touch hole, or fuse, a flintlock device.

              Colonel Clinton Van Nuys (pronounced NIZE) brought the flintlock device.

              Warrant Officer Utchell brought the touch hole.
              Last edited by DonaldBabbett; 12-13-2015, 11:21 PM.

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              • #8
                musketjon
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1746

                If you have to ask this kind of question, methinks you haven't done your homework and should leave the heavy Artillery well-enough alone. And just for the record, YES, I have crewed/fired Artillery in competition.
                Jon

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                • #9
                  DonaldBabbett
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 828

                  Originally posted by musketjon
                  If you have to ask this kind of question, methinks you haven't done your homework and should leave the heavy Artillery well-enough alone. And just for the record, YES, I have crewed/fired Artillery in competition.
                  Jon

                  I don't plan to fire artillery. I just need more inside knowledge to improve a children's poetic story book about it.

                  I do know it takes so many things to make a cannon go BOOM!


                  You probably never fired muzzle-loading cannon in competition.
                  This old-fashioned piece of artillery is mainly ceremonial these days.
                  Last edited by DonaldBabbett; 12-15-2015, 1:24 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44646

                    Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
                    I don't plan to fire artillery. I just need more inside knowledge to improve a children's poetic story book about it.

                    I do know it takes so many things to make a cannon go BOOM!


                    You probably never fired muzzle-loading cannon in competition.
                    This old-fashioned piece of artillery is mainly ceremonial these days.
                    I think you may enjoy broadening your reading selection, For example, http://issuu.com/artillerymanmagazine/docs/fall_2015/5
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #11
                      musketjon
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1746

                      Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
                      I don't plan to fire artillery. I just need more inside knowledge to improve a children's poetic story book about it.

                      I do know it takes so many things to make a cannon go BOOM!


                      You probably never fired muzzle-loading cannon in competition.
                      This old-fashioned piece of artillery is mainly ceremonial these days.

                      Yes, I HAVE fired muzzle loading Artillery in competition. I am a member of the Civil War Skirmish Association, the West Coast equivalent to the NSSA back east. Artillery competition is one of our courses of fire.
                      Jon

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