Mosin's....safe, reliable or just cheap

[Bobby Ricigliano]

My friend said that the Mosin's have one of the worst safety records of any of the MilSurp rifles and are inherently dangerous. He said that a study was done some years ago and cautioned that they probably should not be shot. He could not recall where and I'd never heard anything about that...

Why would you waste your time having a "heated" debate with someone whose argument is based on some phoney FUD study, of which he cannot recall the source or specifics?

I recommend having passionate debates with Facebook strangers as well. It is another way to waste your time and energy in pointless debate.

[mycrstuff]

Mosins do have a bad safety record. The bayonets on the M-91 and the 91/30 don't come off once you put them on. Thousands of Russian soldiers have had their eyes poked out by the bayonets while marching in formation.

Don't even get me started on the major trauma that the Mosins do to the soldiers right shoulder. Purple skin and chiropractic sessions are the norm.

[Rosereader]

Mosins do have a bad safety record. The bayonets on the M-91 and the 91/30 don't come off once you put them on. Thousands of Russian soldiers have had their eyes poked out by the bayonets while marching in formation.

Don't even get me started on the major trauma that the Mosins do to the soldiers right shoulder. Purple skin and chiropractic sessions are the norm.

What? The bayonets come off easily and the recoil is hardly anything to write home about.

[Discogodfather]

If Mosins where unsafe you'd think someone in all those wars it was in over the last 100 years would have said something. Literally millions of troops shot millions of riles in two world wars, yet they are "unsafe".

7.62x54r head spaces off the rim, which makes it very safe. Lower pressures and not dependent on the shoulder = way safer than a more modern high pressure round. Lower tolerances, lower pressures.

[Crocketus]

I still think it was probably that the safety sucks... Which it does.

[Sousuke]

I've read exactly three incidents on the web from mosins that happened in the last 5+ years.

One involved a stuck firing pin. The person went to close the bolt and boom!

One involved a crack in the receiver that was hidden...again boom!

One involved a round stuck in the chamber and then the user tried to chamber a second round. Spitzer round hit primer and boom!

All three were okay though. Maybe a brief hospital visit?

[sl0re10]

If Mosins where unsafe you'd think someone in all those wars it was in over the last 100 years would have said something. Literally millions of troops shot millions of riles in two world wars, yet they are "unsafe".

7.62x54r head spaces off the rim, which makes it very safe. Lower pressures and not dependent on the shoulder = way safer than a more modern high pressure round. Lower tolerances, lower pressures.

if only Stalin knew.

[golfish]

It is true

Some years ago there was indeed a field study. And the German Army determined that

Mosins were, in fact, highly unsafe

ROTFLMFAO..

I love me some mosin

[19K]

I've read exactly three incidents on the web from mosins that happened in the last 5+ years.

One involved a stuck firing pin. The person went to close the bolt and boom!

One involved a crack in the receiver that was hidden...again boom!

One involved a round stuck in the chamber and then the user tried to chamber a second round. Spitzer round hit primer and boom!

All three were okay though. Maybe a brief hospital visit?

The cracked reciever one didn't kaboom. It still fired the round and the shooter was fine. He loaded the gun. Fired and noticed the sights were not lined up and saw the rifle split into two if I remember.

[johnthomas]

It is true

Some years ago there was indeed a field study. And the German Army determined that

Mosins were, in fact, highly unsafe

LOL, great post.

[Vlad 11]

The Mosin safety is unorthodox and a bit awkward but it works good.

I think most people try to freehand the cocking knob and fighting the strong spring can be difficult.

If you stick the buttstock into the crook of your elbow you get leverage. And its a lot easier to grasp the knob and twist it over.

Most dont need to carry it around chambered. not really a big issue

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Perhaps he is confusing 'Mosin Nagant' with 'Carcano'.

Hey now. Carcanos are just as over-built as Mosins, and normally with better steel.

The only problems I have ever heard of were the Bannerman conversions to .30-06, and some that were converted to .300 Win Mag. Other than that, they are built like literal tanks. They are the bastard offspring of spears and clubs that just happen to be able to shoot. Even some of the most beat to he!! ones I have seen still shoot, and don't blow up.

-Mb

[Josh Smith]

Hello,

There are some pictures that have been floated of German tests on the Mosin action.

Thing is, the tests used spiked 7.62x54r rounds manufactured by the Germans for sabotage. They'd replaced the powder with high explosive.

The problem with these pictures is that all the descriptions I've seen have been in German. Sometimes the descriptions were left out, period.

Folks just assumed that the Mosins were blowing up with standard loads.

Otherwise, it's just ignorance.

Regards,

Josh

[DennisCA]

Wait there is a safety on my mosin?

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It's called a empty gun