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  • Raptor3000
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 2836

    Swiss Schmidt Rubin Model 1889 Rifle - Antique -

    Hi,

    Just ordered this antique rifle from classic, description says over all very nice condition. Hope I get a nice one without any rust, pitting or cracked stock.

    Any one bought these rifles from classic? what's the condition of these 1889s? Don't know why these are $40 more than other Swiss rifles.

    Swiss Made Schmidt Rubin Model SR 1889 Rifle. Due to the early date of manufacture this is considered an Antique Firearm....As such No FFL Required. We can ship this one directly to your door. These are in pretty good condition especially considering the age. In fact they are some of the nicest 1889's we have ever seen but certainly expect typical surplus wear. Expect standard dents dings, scratches, and storage marks as are common to Swiss rifles but overall this is one of the nicer batches we have seen. Custom options will reflect any variance in grade or characteristic. This is the long variation of the K1911 rifle with the 30.75" barrel.  C & R Eligible   Does not fire modern ammunition - See extended description for ammo warning.  NOTE: We are offering option SKUs with this batch. Option 1 is our Standard Option for Good to Very Good Condition. Option 2 is Good Condition Rifle but the Cocking Handle is broken. Option 3 is Poor Condition that has some rust on the receiver, broken cocking handle, missing magazine spring and would be solely for extra parts if needed. Do not buy Option 3 if you want a working firearm as we do not guarantee that with this particular firearm. 


    thanks
    Last edited by Raptor3000; 11-02-2015, 7:38 PM.
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    LowThudd
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3608

    Can you even gat ammo for that? Or do you have to form cases? It isn't the same round as the later swiss 7.5. I was just looking at those.

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    • #3
      Raptor3000
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 2836

      Originally posted by LowThudd
      Can you even gat ammo for that? Or do you have to form cases? It isn't the same round as the later swiss 7.5. I was just looking at those.
      Hard to get ammo.

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      • #4
        I Swan
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 8770

        They have 12 round magazines so I guess they will need to be permanently blocked if sold to someone in CA.

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        • #5
          TRICKSTER
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2008
          • 12438

          Originally posted by I Swan
          They have 12 round magazines so I guess they will need to be permanently blocked if sold to someone in CA.
          I don't believe that this applies to antiques? Never bothered to check before.


          Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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          • #6
            Explosive
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 13

            I had an 1889 SR many years ago, I reloaded my own ammo for it. It is known as 7.5x53.5 but I found that the 7.5x55 cases worked well without trimming. I used cast lead bullets with gas checks. I can't remember the powder charge but do know I only loaded to black powder pressure.

            The 1889 is not strong due to the locking lugs at the rear of the bolt.

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            • #7
              ccandgc
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2142

              It's an antique. Post some pictures when you get it.
              -Chad

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              • #8
                Bobby Ricigliano
                Mit Gott und Mauser
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2011
                • 17439

                It would be nice to have one to round out a Swiss rifle collection. For me personally, I'd never try to shoot it though.

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                • #9
                  Raptor3000
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 2836

                  Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                  It would be nice to have one to round out a Swiss rifle collection. For me personally, I'd never try to shoot it though.
                  Me neither, its just to have for my swiss rifle collection.

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                  • #10
                    pmcgugin
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 92

                    I have been looking for a swiss rifle for a while...and these 1889's appear to be a good value. But when I did a quick search on mr. google for ammo....there wasn't much avail. Should I just keep looking for a newer Swiss that handles the GP-11 ammo or snap one of these 1889's up? GP-11 is pretty sparse too....I'm not much into buying wall-hangers..

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                    • #11
                      Eljay
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4985

                      Those are pretty cool - I'd be tempted if I weren't so broke. Those early smokeless rifles are definitely not up to modern strength so I'd want to reload for it anyway.

                      A quick search shows you just use regular Swiss dies and optionally trim the brass down to 53.5mm (usually the chamber is big enough you don't need to) and then use 30-40 Krag load data.

                      If you already have Swiss dies I could see shooting 20 rounds out of it just for the experience of shooting it and then calling it done. Wouldn't cost much to try it...

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                      • #12
                        Eljay
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4985

                        Originally posted by pmcgugin
                        I have been looking for a swiss rifle for a while...and these 1889's appear to be a good value. But when I did a quick search on mr. google for ammo....there wasn't much avail. Should I just keep looking for a newer Swiss that handles the GP-11 ammo or snap one of these 1889's up? GP-11 is pretty sparse too....I'm not much into buying wall-hangers..
                        If you want a shooter buy a K-31 or a K-11 (probably you want the K-31) and buy Privi ammo for it until GP-11 comes back, assuming that we get another batch.

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                        • #13
                          Explosive
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 13

                          There is a lot of GP11 in Canada. This makes me thing that the boat has just not arrived in the US yet.

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                          • #14
                            Mustang
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5046

                            I've used 7.5 x 55 trimmed to "54" and loading data for the 30-40 Krag.
                            ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                            • #15
                              KenG
                              Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 171

                              Second what Mustang stated. I used round nosed 180 grain jacketed projectiles. Very accurate.

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