Arisakas going up in value?

[beerman]

I was snooping on gunbroker the other day and saw this nearly complete, matching type 99, series 4 Nagoya for auction...at the gavel this thing sold for $1,856...and it was missing the sling! Wow.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=506960048

Might be time to sell some stuff.

[NOTABIKER]

not enough Arisakas to go around ,once they got on collectors radar the price went up.the days of picking one up at a gun store or gun show cheap are over pretty much.
Much WW 2 history for 1/3 of what a K 98 costs. Equal in my book. I have both and like to shoot both.

[Eljay]

There seems to be a lot more interest in them, that's for sure.

[Rogerbutthead]

Nice rifle, incredible price.

[glassparman]

Perfect unground mum, all matching including the dust cover, aircraft wings and monopod. That all sums up to a nice price but I don't think they are quite that high yet. Someone really wanted it.

Now if the screws on the trigger guard were still staked and not moved, that would raise the price. Also, the stock does not look entirely original in it's finish but maybe . . .

[Geologyjohn]

I still see Substitute Standard ("Last Ditch") Type 99's for sale by knowledgeable dealers in the $200-$250 range. From there the price goes up, but most rarely exceed $350.-$450. unless there is something special/rare about it, such as a Series 11, a "Rope Hole" Type 99, a Type 2 paratrooper, a Navy Special, etc. Also, what happens on certain auction sites (e.g.. Gunbroker) should not always be considered the actual value of the Type 99 being bid on. Bidders looking to fill a void in their Type 99 collection can throw stupid $'s down to out bid a fellow collector.
Get Don Voight's book and do your homework if you are going to jump into Type 99's.
Happy hunting guys!

[NOTABIKER]

I am not interested in all the details collectors look for. But i bet a type 99 in good condition with a ground mum and not matching numbers is still a 300 dollar rifle all day long. maybe 350.
Only a collector could love a rifle with untouched staked screws which means nobody has kept the insides from rusting for 70 years.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

The Arisaka mentioned in the first post represents an unusually fine example, and would be sought after by a deep pocketed Arisaka buff who doesn't need to troll for deals. You could probably find the same rifle for 1/3 the price if you hunt earnestly for one. Most Type 99's are still well south of $500.

[I Swan]

I'm not yet 40 and I remember when Arisaka prices were much lower. That being said I still occasionally find non sporterized examples sometimes even with a mum for $50-150 but it has gotten harder to do so this year and usually for that price they are rough or sanded or have repro parts on them. I found a type 38 Carbine for $150 a couple of years ago but it had some chambering problems.

I am holding out for a cheap Type 38 Carbine and a Type 44 and maybe a Chinese converted one to 7.62x39 but I'm not thinking it will be easy. I did get a Type I about a year or so ago for $150 out the door. Took me a long time to do that.

[81turbota]

There's a very nice T99 with supposed matching numbers and a ground mum for sale at a local shop for $300. It's been there a while...

I didn't look at series/staked screws.

[beerman]

I'm in agreement with the crew here, this one was caught in a bidding war.There have been a few pristine examples top $1K on GB in the past though. I'm hanging on to mine.

[Paulie Lugnuts]

I wouldn't take that price as representative of the current market. Arisakas tend to be either beat up and mumless or nice. There's a big price difference. Nice guns with intact mums can be twice the price of rough ones.
A friend of mine recently received his grandfather's type 99. Gramps brought it back during WWII. NIce original gun with an intact mum. Unfortunately Gramps drilled holes in the receiver to mount a scope, one right through the mum

[pitfighter]

Saw this interesting little combo this morning -
Rifle (no Mum), Bayonet and capture paper.

http://www.obiantiquefirearms.com/Home.aspx/Catdet/16860?nm=wwii-japanese-nagoya-type-99-7-7-w-bayonet-capture-paper&category=Group&bread_last=%2FHome.aspx%2FCatpage%2FGroup%3FGroupType%3DModernFirearms%26psize%3D30%26sortseq%3DName%26type%3DGroup&category_desc=Modern%20Firearms#.VgrR2bSCXzI

Cheap enough package to sit on and wait for it to go up in value, and a chance to use that C+R license

[Jimja]

Saw this interesting little combo this morning -
Rifle (no Mum), Bayonet and capture paper.

http://www.obiantiquefirearms.com/Home.aspx/Catdet/16860?nm=wwii-japanese-nagoya-type-99-7-7-w-bayonet-capture-paper&category=Group&bread_last=%2FHome.aspx%2FCatpage%2FGroup%3FGroupType%3DModernFirearms%26psize%3D30%26sortseq%3DName%26type%3DGroup&category_desc=Modern%20Firearms#.VgrR2bSCXzI

Cheap enough package to sit on and wait for it to go up in value, and a chance to use that C+R license

Unfortunately the papers do not have the serial number listed so it's impossible to prove that they are for this rifle.

A lot of Japanese bring back rifles and pistols have papers like that. For some reason pistols are easier to find with numbered papers. Rifles mostly seem like they either don't have papers or simply say "1 Jap rifle" or "1 Japanese rifle"

I've only seen one Arisaka, a late war last ditch, that had numbered papers (and some original photos/documents from the guy that brough it back) in the last year, so I bought it

[pitfighter]

You're right -