Fully utilize the Collector's Exchange?

[Mike Armstrong]

I don't see many mid or late 20th century C&Rs in the Exchange and wonder why?

There are MANY desirable guns that qualify but don't show up there--for example Ruger Standard and MK I .22 autos that have non-prefix serial numbers under 250296 (made at the end of 1964--there are actually thousands made in 1965, and some of them are C&R. But let's not get picky....). ALL Colt .22s of the Woodsman family qualify: "pre-Woodsman," all models of Woodsman, all Huntsman, Targetsman, Challengers--regardless of date of manufacture. All pre-64 Winchesters.

And many Savage 99s, 219/220s, all 23s, many 340s, and on and on. It takes a little research to figure out what guns qualify, i.e. determine date of manufacture, but that's what the internet and this forum is for, no?

Is there a Calguns rule against "double posting" a gun, say, putting a C&R Ruger on both the Exchange and the "Handguns for Sale" forums?

[81turbota]

I have found most C&R's in the regular trader. It gets much more traffic and appeals to a larger crowd. Looking at the trader now, I see all kinds of C&R, like a K43 with scope, Mosins, pistols etc.

If I were to sell, I'd advertise on the C&R section first. I would like to see the C&R go to the C&R group, rather than possibly turned into a "archangel scout tactical rifle". Again....just a "personal" thing.

It is common practice to post an ad and cross post the link to the other trader.

[IEatZ28]

I wish the exchange was used more. (I really just wish more people would sell me their C&Rs, haha) But i am not very interested in all the new guns so going the the MP can be a pain to find C&Rs

[I Swan]

I rarely look at it as I'd think anyone that lists items there understands their values and prices them accordingly. My usual way to buy milsurps is looking for clueless FFL's that don't understand them and their values and are afraid or incompetent using the internet. My last Finn was sold to me by the shop as a "Russian POS".

[81turbota]

I rarely look at it as I'd think anyone that lists items there understands their values and prices them accordingly. My usual way to buy milsurps is looking for clueless FFL's that don't understand them and their values and are afraid or incompetent using the internet. My last Finn was sold to me by the shop as a "Russian POS".

I capitalize on ignorance as well. I have scored quite a few "POS" Finnish rifles that way. It sounds rough, but in today's world I do not feel remorse if the seller didn't take the time to research the piece.

On the other hand, I get annoyed with people that think their hacked up, reblued, sporter stock K98 is worth an exorbitant amount of money. They seem to get VERY offended when corrected, I don't bother doing so anymore. "What do you mean this Nazi WW2 rifle is worth $300? The ones online are going for $2500!!" People will go for the highest sold price on GB and use that as reference....just because a museum grade Luger rig sold for $4000 doesn't mean your nickel plated mismatch is worth $4000.

[NapalmCheese]

Most people equate C&R with mil-surp.
As such, most folks post in the general for-sale (and maybe in the C&R for sale) in the hopes that someone, anyone, will buy their run of the mill 91/30.

Personally, I like early American shotguns, but there isn't a lot of traffic for that.

I've taken a liking to sporters, but those tend to be in the general forum as well since this particular C&R forum feels that sporters are unworthy rifles that must be 'refurbished'.

[pitfighter]

Yup to the above - hunting G43's right now -

I'll drop $2K + or - on a rough-matching - but, don't try and baffle me with BS on your mixmaster being worth $3K or more -
My response is here's my email touch base in six months or so when reality sets in.

GB is a useful tool, for gauging value, but as mentioned here, use the prices realized - the dreamers who post a sky high price so they can tell their wife it's for sale - there are GB auctions that have been running unsuccessfully for several years.

I have bought and sold a lot through Calguns - but in my experience - C+R or exchange forum the following holds true:

Calguns - sub-$500 great.
GB - $500 and above.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Going for

Sold for

One is often confused for the other. The invisible hand that guides most markets is sometimes thrown for a loop in the C&R market when you sprinkle in vanity, pride, and ignorance.

[IEatZ28]

Hey i have a 43 Izzy M9130 in an archangel stock, im looking for 5k or trade for your 2013 Corvette.

[I Swan]

It is human nature where people value their items like it is gold but your stuff is excrement.

[ccandgc]

I wade through the regular classifieds every now and then.....it gets tiring and monotonous looking at all the black plastic, glocks and tacticool ninja junk...there is a lot more listed there though.

[IEatZ28]

Really though, haha.

[IEatZ28]

Theres a couple i would like to save from the bubba but then i think, when i get it in the mail, or shipped to the ffl, theyre going to think I like that stuff, gonna be awkward, they will no longer respect me hahaha

[Mike Armstrong]

"Capitalize on ignorance"! What ARE you guys, CAPITALISTS????

Seriously, I agree with most of what is said above. I guess I just don't much like scrolling thru a zillion plastic and sheet metal marvels to find a real gun.

Like the poster above, I too have "capitalized on ignorance," especially when the ignoramus was also Captain-Know-It-All ("Russian POS"). I try to give widows and orphans fair value; everyone else is on his/her own.

But when you guys have a nice C&R walnut and steel sporter, or shotgun, or handgun, would you at least cross-post it here in the "Exchange"? Have a care for my 72 year old eyes!

[nick]

Man, lots of sharks here...